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Crash Witnesses Accounts:
"I heard like a boom and the engine sounded funny," she told the Daily News. "I heard two more booms - and then I did not hear anything."
What does Temyer think she heard? "I think the plane was shot down,"
http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily_news/2001/11/18/local/SHOT15C.htm
"It came in low over the trees and started wobbling," said Tim Thornsberg, a resident of Somerset County, who was working near an old strip mine when he saw the plane.
"Then it just rolled over and was flying upside down for a few seconds ... and then it kind of stalled and did a nose dive over the trees. It was just unreal to see something like that."
http://www.pittsburgh.com/partners/wpxi/news/flightheroes.html
Eric Peterson, 28, was working in his shop in the Somerset County village of Lambertsville yesterday morning when he heard a plane, looked up and saw one fly over unusually low.
The plane continued on beyond a nearby hill, then dropped out of sight behind a tree line. As it did so, Peterson said it seemed to be turning end-over-end.
Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky.
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
Eric Peterson of Lambertsville looked up when he heard the plane. "It was low enough, I thought you could probably count the rivets," Peterson said. "You could see more of the roof of the plane than you could the belly. It was on its side."
"There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud."
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plain...tandard.xsl?/base/news/100028703529429109.xml
“Normally I wouldn’t look up, but I just heard on the news that all the planes were grounded and thought this was probably the last one I would see for a while, so I looked up,” she said. “I didn’t see the plane but I heard the plane’s engine. Then I heard a loud thump that echoed off the hills and then I heard the plane’s engine. I heard two more loud thumps and didn’t hear the plane’s engine anymore after that.”
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
"We didn't hear that plane coming until it was right on top of us," she said. "Then there was a roar." She said the plane appeared to be gliding into the ground. "All at once it just stopped. There was no engine noise, nothing. Someone hollered, Oh my God!' and then there was a real loud thud."
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plain...tandard.xsl?/base/news/100028703529429109.xml
Shortly after 10 a.m., workers on farms and scrap yards in Somerset County looked up to see an airliner flying low and erratic at an estimated 450 mph.
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
Bob Blair of Stoystown was driving a coal truck on state Route 30 when he saw the jet plummet "straight down." Barn windowpanes for half a mile around shattered as the jet dived into a reclaimed strip mine and exploded at 10:10 a. m.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/09/17/MN40630.DTL
A witness told WTAE-TV's Paul Van Osdol that she saw the plane overhead. It made a high-pitched, screeching sound. The plane then made a sharp, 90-degree downward turn and crashed.
http://newsandviews.tripod.com/news/091101tv2.html
Bob Blair was completing a routine drive to Shade Creek just after 10 a.m. Tuesday, when he saw a huge silver plane fly past him just above the treetops and crash into the woods along Lambertsville Road.
Blair, of Stoystown, a driver with Jim Barron Trucking of Somerset, was traveling in a coal truck along with Doug Miller of Somerset, when they saw the plane spiraling to the ground and then explode on the outskirts of Lambertsville.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html
Another witness, Michael Merringer, said he was out on a mountain bike ride with his wife, Amy, about two miles from the crash site.
"(I) heard the engine gun two different times," he said. "(I) heard a loud bang and the windows of the houses all around rattled."
http://www.pjstar.com/news/worldtrade/g34835a.html
Larry Williams, a former state police trooper who is now a private investigator, was golfing on the 17th green at Oakbrook Golf Course about eight miles away when he heard the engines “roar real loud and shut off.”
http://www.dailyamerican.com/disaster.html#3
"We got the call about 9:58 this morning from a male passenger stating that he was locked in the bathroom of United Flight 93 traveling from Newark to San Francisco, and they were being hijacked," said Glenn Cramer, a 911 supervisor.
"We confirmed that with him several times and we asked him to repeat what he said. He was very distraught. He said he believed the plane was going down. He did hear some sort of an explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane, but he didn't know where.
"And then we lost contact with him."
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
Meanwhile, investigators also are combing a second crime scene in nearby Indian Lake (2.5 miles from main crash site), where residents reported hearing the doomed jetliner flying over at a low altitude before "falling apart on their homes."
"People were calling in and reporting pieces of plane falling," a state trooper said. Jim Stop reported he had seen the hijacked Boeing 757 fly over him as he was fishing. He said he could see parts falling from the plane.
I lost this link.. but since the witness name is there I've left it up.
Some witnesses reported that the plane was flying upside down for a time before the crash; others said they heard up to three loud booms before the jetliner went down.
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
"There was no way anything was left," Pluta added. "There was just charred pieces of metal and a big hole. The plane didn't slide into the crash. It went straight into the ground. Wings out. Nose down."
Bits of metal were thrown against a tree line like shrapnel, said state police spokesman Trooper Thomas Spallone of Troop A in Greensburg.
"Once it hit, everything just disintegrated," he said. "There are just shreds of metal. The longest piece I saw was 2 feet long."
http://www.mypittsburghlive.com/myp...rial.dll?render=y&eetype=Article&eeid=5245814
And he's using planted evidence and doctored photos to do itWow this dude is on serious drugs
He is trying to compare crashes where the pilot ACTUALLY TRIED TO LAND THE PLANE to Flight 93 where the Pilot INTENTIONALLY crashed the plane into the ground at a steep angle and at a high speed.
Wow this dude is on serious drugs
He is trying to compare crashes where the pilot ACTUALLY TRIED TO LAND THE PLANE to Flight 93 where the Pilot INTENTIONALLY crashed the plane into the ground at a steep angle and at a high speed.
a LOT.
I'm still giddy, hoping I'll get arrested for being a co-conspirator for posting pics of 'planted evidence'. That made my day, and this whole debate worth it!Satan totally made me do it, too.
Btodd
This is old hat for him, believe me. He's been banned from multiple forums, both Twoofer and Government Shill. When even the Loose Change forums think you're a paranoid idiot, that's saying a LOT.
I'm still giddy, hoping I'll get arrested for being a co-conspirator for posting pics of 'planted evidence'. That made my day, and this whole debate worth it!Satan totally made me do it, too.
Btodd
If cheap ridicule is all you have (aka nothing of substance), then I advise you don't even bother posting.
A thread about nothing of substance deserves no other response.
"Nothing of substance" is merely your opinion and demonstrates poor judgment.
Have you ever seen a bullet fired at a steel plate? The plate will receive a small dent and there will essentialy be no trace of the bullet.
In a normal plane crash, the plane is nearing the ground near it's landing speed of 100-150 mph. This is only two or three times the kinetic energy that a car crash would see so you would expect damage comparable. In this plane crash, the plane was traveling at close to 600 mph at the time of impact. 4 times the normal speed means that the total kinetic energy is 16 times greater than other pictures that you have seen.
At this speed, the impact looks more like that of a bullet than anything else. This plane impacted at the same speed at the average bullet from a handgun. Aluminum has roughly the same physical properties of strength and melting point as lead. The key difference is that the bullet is solid but a plane is engineered to have the largest possible volume, this makes a plane a lot weaker than a bullet.
The 3.2 gigajoules of kinetic energy released during this crash where mostly used making that nice hole in the ground you see and ripping the plane to shreds. You wouldn't expect much of anything to actually be recognizable at the crash site. As a result, the two crash site photos you see there are not actually from the impact site itself but hundreds of feet away from it where that landed. The vegetation here would be relatively unharmed since the fireball was elsewhere and the debris were only moving at a fraction of the speed that the plane was originally.
The second picture is clean, but that is because we are looking at the outside of the plane. Any fiery explosion would have been the result of the fuel tanks which are located inside, therefore, the explosion would have come from the interior and not burn the exterior as substantially.
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