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It's only a theory when there are uncertainties as to what happened. In this case, we know what happened.It was a conspiracy act, but that does not mean that you do not suscribe to a conspiracy theory. For indeed you do, just like everyone who holds any view regarding 9/11. We are all conspiracy theorists.
It's only a theory when there are uncertainties as to what happened. In this case, we know what happened.
No-one is certain that Hani Hanjour piloted the plane into the Pentagon. [/QUOTE
Whether it was Hanjour or another person, we know they flew the plane into the Pentagon
]No-one is certain as to what caused WTC 7 to collapse,
We are pretty certain what caused it to collapse. Really, no one died in WTC 7. Why would they have an incentive to destroy it if they were going to use it an an excuse to start a war in the Middle East?
.and there is even debate as to the mechanism that caused the simultaneous collapse and disintegration of the Twin Towers
The only debate is with kooks
No-one is certain who funded the operation and the 9/11 Commission certainly does not delve into it in its Repor
LOL you have never read the report then. It's in there.
. No-one is certain how the passport of one of the terrorists survived the massive inferno of the jet smashing into the tower to land neatly on the street.
yes..it fell
No-one is certain why Atta even contemplated carrying luggage with his last will on a plane that he intended to destroy.
Who really cares
or why the CIA with-held witness testimony that the Commission's chair and co-chair claimed 'obstructed' their investigation.
Yes, but they didn't say it would have changed the outcome. I can't really picture Thomas Kean interviewing Khlaed Sheik Muhammad, someone that was waterboarded close to 200 times and being able to get anything out of him.
No-one is certain why the FBI refuses to release, even under Freedom of Information, all known video footage of the plane slamming into the Pentagon.
Who really cares? We know a plane slammed into the Pentagon, unless you are doubting that
The numerous 'uncertainties' continue and the questions persist, and you believe as you believe, and so it does remain that the official 9/11 story is a conspiracy theory.
Sorry, the important questions have been answered so the OV is not a conspiracy theory.
What energy source are you prepared to introduce into this equation in order to create the MASSIVE temperatures required to carry out that kind of matter/energy transformation? :0) We do realize that E=MC2! Right? Okay then. We are talking about over 100 TONS of "M" (Mass) and your job is to show us where the "E" (Energy) was released! :0) The "C" (speed of light = 186,000 mps) must be 'squared' (34596000000) and multiplied by the "M" (Mass = 200,000+). Right? Holy cows! And that massive number gives you the amount of energy released in ONE SECOND!! You certainly have a LOT of explaining to do. :0)
Where in the Report does the Commission delve into depth regarding the funding of the 9/11 operation? Why is it acceptable for the Commission to rely on third-hand evidence in drawing its conclusions? This brings into question its findings. Many people care as to why Atta left his last will and testament in luggage that was to go on a plane that he intended to destroy. He is apparently a genius for pulling off these attacks, yet simultaneously an idiot for almost destroying his own last will and testament. If architects and structural engineers are kooks by your book, then what incentive have you to listen to anyone? How is it possible that the plane that slammed into the tower and was destroyed in a massive fireball... yet a compilation of paper known as a passport miracously survives... did the black boxes also survive? As for WTC 7 and the Twin Towers... the mechanisms of their collapse and disintegration is of fundamental importance to building safety in construction and structural engineering... are you suggesting no valuable insights could be found in investigating this?... so as to prevent further repeats of the same phenomena. Please do not pretend that all the questions, those listed here and numerous others, are answered - that would be called denial.We are pretty certain what caused it to collapse. Really, no one died in WTC 7. Why would they have an incentive to destroy it if they were going to use it an an excuse to start a war in the Middle East?
The only debate is with kook
LOL you have never read the report then. It's in there.
yes..it fell
Who really cares
Yes, but they didn't say it would have changed the outcome. I can't really picture Thomas Kean interviewing Khlaed Sheik Muhammad, someone that was waterboarded close to 200 times and being able to get anything out of him.
Who really cares? We know a plane slammed into the Pentagon, unless you are doubting that
Sorry, the important questions have been answered so the OV is not a conspiracy theory.
Where in the Report does the Commission delve into depth regarding the funding of the 9/11 operation? Why is it acceptable for the Commission to rely on third-hand evidence in drawing its conclusions? This brings into question its findings. Many people care as to why Atta left his last will and testament in luggage that was to go on a plane that he intended to destroy. He is apparently a genius for pulling off these attacks, yet simultaneously an idiot for almost destroying his own last will and testament. If architects and structural engineers are kooks by your book, then what incentive have you to listen to anyone? How is it possible that the plane that slammed into the tower and was destroyed in a massive fireball... yet a compilation of paper known as a passport miracously survives... did the black boxes also survive? As for WTC 7 and the Twin Towers... the mechanisms of their collapse and disintegration is of fundamental importance to building safety in construction and structural engineering... are you suggesting no valuable insights could be found in investigating this?... so as to prevent further repeats of the same phenomena. Please do not pretend that all the questions, those listed here and numerous others, are answered - that would be called denial.
Posting that photo over and over isn't going to do it, Terral.
You have no explanation for Flight 93 . . .
. . . its passengers . . .
. . . the DNA evidence . . .
. . . the flight data . . .
. . . the passenger phone calls, and eyewitness testimony.
The official version explains ALL of those things.
Your claim that there were 'no pieces of Flight 93 anywhere on the net' is also blatantly false.
How does Todd explain the fact that Flight 93 debris was found six and eight miles away from this tiny little empty hole in the empty Shanksville Field? Hmmmmm? :0) Please forgive, but the guy simply does NOT have sufficient knowledge of this Flight 93 case to even carry on a good conversation. He will continue to keep his head buried in the sand (pic) no matter what anyone says or does in this Flight 93 debate. :0)Flight 93 Crash Site
Rural Pennsylvania Crash Site of the Fourth Jet Commandeered on September 11th
. . . "A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1
Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
Your accusation of exploding ditches and trash dumping is also without a single shred of evidence. Twoofer 101.
Terral has no grasp of reality. He makes things up as he goes and refuses to address pictures as evidence when they clearly show plane wreckage. Its like arguing with a wall, but the wall may actually have more sense.
Terral,
Stop trolling and tell us why there were plane parts and body parts everywhere. The coroner picked up over 600 pounds of human remains on the site. Are you saying human remains were also planted on the site?
As coroner, responsible for returning human remains, Miller has been forced to share with the families information that is unimaginable. As he clinically recounts to them, holding back very few details, the 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. They were essentially cremated together upon impact. Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total
Dude you have been owned so many times..you could not debate yourself out of a wet paper bag. I know its one sided. You have lost..its easy to debate someone that does not have a grasp on reality such as yourself. HEre is the info you asked for. Read it and weep.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A56110-2002May8
The story says, "Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods FOR WEEKS were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total.""Miller was among the very first to arrive after 10:06 on the magnificently sunny morning of September 11. He was stunned at how small the smoking crater looked, he says, "like someone took a scrap truck, dug a 10-foot ditch and dumped all this trash into it (my close up pic)." Once he was able to absorb the scene, Miller says, "I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were NO BODIES there. It became like a giant funeral service." As a funeral director, Miller says, he is honored and humbled to preside over what has become essentially an immense cemetery stretching far into the scenic wooded mountain ridge. He considers it the final resting place of 40 national heroes."
Hi James:
The story says (my pic) included,
The story says, "Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods FOR WEEKS were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total."
In other words, the 'coroner' we are talking about never saw one body or even a piece of a body inside that little hole. Click on the "my pic" above (or this one) and show us how ANYONE could place 600 pounds of human remains in this hole. The investigators are Not even searching down in the EMPTY HOLE. Yes, some DNA evidence came 'from somewhere,' but check the OP Topic again and weep for your own weak and feeble case . . . Other people ran around 'claiming' that they found this and that in the woods, but as we have already seen, the debris field extends eight miles away to New Baltimore (story).
Click on the 'story' link and right away you can see the Official Picture Evidence showing OUR EMPTY HOLE on this website. You are intentionally looking right pass the EMPTY HOLE to believe whatever story Senor Bush invented to delude Americans into invading Iraq, so on and so forth.
In Christ Jesus,
Terral
Dude you are delusional . . .
This first OP picture of Official Government Evidence (pic) shows nothing more than AN . . . EMPTY . . . HOLE with a guy walking from our right to our left at about high noon. The OP hypothesis says “Flight 93 NEVER Crashed In The Empty Shanksville Field” and the picture still shows an empty hole! Todd has no explanation for the empty hole where 'his' crashed 100-Ton Jetliner is supposed to be found. :0) Do not expect me to continue bringing out ‘more’ evidence of the empty hole (the website), when Todd cannot explain the very first one in the OP of this thread. This is where Todd has no concept of what ‘debate’ (presentation of opposing views) even means.
Terral said:The OP hypothesis says “Flight 93 NEVER Crashed In The EMPTY Shanksville Field.” What part of that statement are we having trouble understanding? My only job is to prove beyond all doubt that Flight 93 DID NOT crash into this empty Shanksville Field, which is supported by the pictures of THE EMPTY HOLE like this one:
Okay, hotshot, where is your crashed 100-Ton Jetliner in the Official Government Evidence Photograph? :0) This is the very location where Todd says a real 100-Ton Jetliner crashed! However, pictures of the EMPTY HOLE (and videos like this one) are simply not good enough for this comedian without a case for anything. How does Todd explain the 'wing-like' depressions in Aeriel Photograph taken back in 1994 of this EMPTY FIELD (pic)? He simply ignores the evidence and 'talks' about whatever comes to his mind today. Like George Carlin, the guy is 'winging it' (pic). :0)
Terral said:What passengers? You have yet to place a crashed Flight 93 in the empty cotton picking hole! :0) Stop feeding us Loyal Bushie Delusions and try to prove that Flight 93 crashed ANYWHERE. GL.
Terral said:What DNA evidence? Did Todd get that from the little 20-feet diameter hole? I suppose that since Todd can actually spell “DNA” that we are supposed to bow down and worship his Loyal Bushie LIES. :0) The Shanksville Coroner said,
Wallace E Miller Coroner
This guy found no Jetliner crash or any dead bodies in the little empty hole. Period!
Terral said:Posting pictures of planted evidence makes Todd a co-conspirator with the DoD/FBI Counterintelligence Field Operatives running the Disinformation Campaign since before these 9/11 attacks even took place.
Part of the problem is that he seems to think the pplane "landed" in the field and can't see the difference between that and CRASHING in the field at 500 mphDude you are delusional. They found human remains near the crash site. 600 pounds worth. They had to be fresh or else they would have decomposed. There was a plane crash there. People died there. It is also laughable that you believe the debris field was 8 miles. That is if you take the ROADS..not if you go in a straight line from crash site to where pieces of paper were found. Geez
Answer these questions
1. Why were plane parts found there?
2. Why were body parts found there?
3. Do you have any witnesses to show body parts/plane parts were planted there?
4. What happened to the people that were allegedly on the plane?
We are waiting for your answers
Greetings to All with James mentioned:
If none of the Official Cover Story folks can produce one picture of Flight 93 crashed in this empty field (none exist), then we are ready to begin debate on the Flight 77/Pentagon Case. No sir. I will not be feeding any more of these pesky trolls. :0)
I will have that presentation ready by in the morning. Thank you very much to everyone making a contribution to this discussion. God bless,
In Christ Jesus,
Terral
Earlier, you viewed an engine part being dug up out of that 'empty hole', genius.
You can show that picture all you want, it won't erase the parts of the plane you've seen (the ones you conveniently skipped over from your raid of Moussaoui trial pictures), the DNA evidence, the flight data, nor the eyewitness testimonies to back it up.
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