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Fleeing to Mars not of God

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All men who put things first above God worship them. Science is not exempt from this. They must wear it.
A self-serving definition if I ever heard one. First I'd have to see some real evidence of this "God" of which you speak. (Don't bother posting any. I've seen all sorts of claimed evidence and once believed it myself, but I don't anymore.)
 
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All men who put things first above God worship them.

The thing about the bible is that its ambiguity forces every individual to form their own interpretation of God.

In other words... NOBODY actually worships God, they worship their own personal concept of God. Which is nothing more than worshiping themselves.

So congratulations, I'll be running away from your ideology as fast as I possibly can.
 
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A self-serving definition if I ever heard one.
What people do or do not put first and foremost has nothing to do with me
First I'd have to see some real evidence of this "God" of which you speak.
Really?
(Don't bother posting any.
I thought so
I've seen all sorts of claimed evidence and once believed it myself, but I don't anymore.)
If we once believed, would not He be working on us? The evidence people need is Him coming in to their lives when invited. That is not gotten by digging in the dirt for 'evidences' of God
 
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The thing about the bible is that its ambiguity forces every individual to form their own interpretation of God.
The bible seems to indicate otherwise.

Prov 8: 8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.


9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
In other words... NOBODY actually worships God, they worship their own personal concept of God.
To put Jesus first is not related to a personal conception of ours. He is who He is and lived like He lived. There is no confusion about who He is.
Which is nothing more than worshiping themselves.

So congratulations, I'll be running away from your ideology as fast as I possibly can.
And I will not be agreeing with your idea that no one can know God or put Him above other things
 
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Darwin said no such thing. Darwin demonstrated that humans came from earlier apes.
Does evolution even say "humans came from earlier apes?"

Is the common progenitor of humans and apes classified as an "ape?"
 
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His belief, faith in God is supposed to be what we put first. Anything else is not the right way to worship.

So why do you insist on putting your faith in YOUR ability to interpret a book? It's not even faith in the book itself, it's faith in your ability to interpret it. How is that faith in God?
 
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Does evolution even say "humans came from earlier apes?"
To the extent that "evolution says" is a proper linguisitic construct, yes.
Is the common progenitor of humans and apes classified as an "ape?"
Yes, the common ancestor of humans and other great apes (gorillas, chimps, bonobos) is a great ape. The common ancestor of all apes is an ape.
 
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What people do or do not put first and foremost has nothing to do with me
You certainly seem overly concerned about it given your statements here.
Yes, really.
I thought so

If we once believed, would not He be working on us? The evidence people need is Him coming in to their lives when invited. That is not gotten by digging in the dirt for 'evidences' of God
There is plenty of evidence of people believing in things without any experience of it happening to them. There was no evidence of your god acting in my life.
 
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Not the birth, His risen body. Although some people suggest that there could have been dozens of wise men. Add the shepherds. The crew and relatives at Bethlehem Inn. Etc. Then there was God Almighty in attendance looking on and the angels! I suspect there were trillions! :) I have heard it suggested as well that in heaven, time travel will be no obstacle, so I may even get over to see it!
So NOT hundreds like you claimed.
 
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So why do you insist on putting your faith in YOUR ability to interpret a book? It's not even faith in the book itself, it's faith in your ability to interpret it. How is that faith in God?
Jesus proved the book was bang on
 
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You certainly seem overly concerned about it given your statements here.
No. Pointing out how a Chicken Little quest to flee doomsday on earth is not putting man or God first is not being overly concerned with it.
Yes, really.
Except you then immediately said you did not want to see any
There is plenty of evidence of people believing in things without any experience of it happening to them
You are a good example. Your baseless doubts have no experience or substance to them
. There was no evidence of your god acting in my life.
Like He gave up?
 
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Who cares what names they prefer to use in the concept? The lie
Whether I accept someone's story or not, I still want to make sure I've got their story straight. That's the intel analyst in me.
 
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To the extent that "evolution says" is a proper linguisitic construct, yes.

Yes, the common ancestor of humans and other great apes (gorillas, chimps, bonobos) is a great ape. The common ancestor of all apes is an ape.
Why not "homo?"
 
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So NOT hundreds like you claimed.
It was not the birth of Jesus I was talking about specifically, but the risen Jesus. All aspects of His life are confirmed and Mary is vindicated from the slanders by His proving He was God and rising from the dead.
 
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