"Flaunting it"?

[Zebra1552]

Where I come from the rainbow is a symbol for peace.

Where´s a rainbow, anyways?

The streamer inbetween the two lines.

 

[Belk]

The context of it is a dead giveaway. They're in a parade. We just had a bunch of gay pride marches.

Well that clinch's it. Anyone who marches in a parade must be gay.

 

[LittleNipper]

Im confused about this.

I've seen people here say they dislike homosexuals because they "flaunt" their sexuality.

This honestly confuses me because heterosexuals do the same thing and I dont see any objections. If someone who is straight is talking about their boyfriend or girlfriend or husband or wife, nobody jumps on them saying they are flaunting their sexuality.

Why is this?

Flaunting is flaunting no matter who does it. Modesty is ALWAYS the best policy. To kiss and tell brings only dishonor.

 

[Zebra1552]

Well that clinch's it. Anyone who marches in a parade must be gay.

With a rainbow, wearing things like that, when it's all one gender.

 

[keith99]

If everything that involved a rainbow was homosexual... well lets just say the creative ministries at my church is in some big trouble.

Thank God!

I was beginning to think there were not any Christians here who knew the older meaning of the rainbow.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Here's my thoughts on the matter.

We have a gay czar, right? I can't remember which dept. he serves) When he was appointed, headlines everywhere were "GAY MAN APPOINTED CZAR". For other appointments we didn't see "NON-GAY MAN APPOINTED..." or "HETEROSEXUAL MAN..."

It seems that for gay people, their sexuality must be attached to everything they do. And this isn't on them...it's on anyone who feels they have to attach it. We shouldn't have headlines that talk about one's sexuality when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

That's what I think of in terms of flaunting. I don't think that gays flaunt their physical sexuality any more than heterosexuals do.

 

[Skaloop]

Flaunting is flaunting no matter who does it. Modesty is ALWAYS the best policy. To kiss and tell brings only dishonor.

Perhaps, but the whole "I hate how they flaunt it" argument is only ever used against homosexuality. If the people who say that actually had a problem with the flaunting, they would target heteros, since they make up the vast majority of public sexuality-flaunters. But they don't; they target homos. Which shows that their concern is not with the flaunting per se, but with the gayness.

And where do you draw the line? What constitutes immodest kissing and telling? A peck on the cheek? A kiss on the lips? An open-mouthed kiss? What about non-kissing PDAs, like holding hands or having an arm around a waist or having your hand in her back pocket?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Im confused about this.

I've seen people here say they dislike homosexuals because they "flaunt" their sexuality.

This honestly confuses me because heterosexuals do the same thing and I dont see any objections. If someone who is straight is talking about their boyfriend or girlfriend or husband or wife, nobody jumps on them saying they are flaunting their sexuality.

Why is this?

Where I live my gay friends don't show any affection out in public, due to their very real fears that they'll be beaten up by Christians.

 

[Belk]

Perhaps, but the whole "I hate how they flaunt it" argument is only ever used against homosexuality. If the people who say that actually had a problem with the flaunting, they would target heteros, since they make up the vast majority of public sexuality-flaunters. But they don't; they target homos. Which shows that their concern is not with the flaunting per se, but with the gayness.

And where do you draw the line? What constitutes immodest kissing and telling? A peck on the cheek? A kiss on the lips? An open-mouthed kiss? What about non-kissing PDAs, like holding hands or having an arm around a waist or having your hand in her back pocket?

Well, to be fair I think they do decry what they consider to be imodest dress in teenagers. I remember a bunch of threads dealing with the "flaunting" that followed the Britney Spears fashion sense.

 

[Joachim]

I'd qualify that as dressing strangely, I dont see that it qualifies as flaunting one's sexuality.

Is the Naked Cowboy flaunting his sexuality?

If you don't think those pictures are gay you lack good gaydar because those pictures are totally gay. They scream homo. That's simply the truth.

 

[Steezie]

Well, to be fair I think they do decry what they consider to be imodest dress in teenagers. I remember a bunch of threads dealing with the "flaunting" that followed the Britney Spears fashion sense.

But are these same people going out on the streets and yelling at teenagers for getting tarted up a bit?

Here's my thoughts on the matter.

We have a gay czar, right? I can't remember which dept. he serves) When he was appointed, headlines everywhere were "GAY MAN APPOINTED CZAR". For other appointments we didn't see "NON-GAY MAN APPOINTED..." or "HETEROSEXUAL MAN..."

It seems that for gay people, their sexuality must be attached to everything they do. And this isn't on them...it's on anyone who feels they have to attach it. We shouldn't have headlines that talk about one's sexuality when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

That's what I think of in terms of flaunting. I don't think that gays flaunt their physical sexuality any more than heterosexuals do.

Screaming and yelling about ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN isnt flaunting your heterosexuality? Seems like it to me.

With a rainbow, wearing things like that, when it's all one gender.

See now you're going off of gender stereotypes. Dudes cant like rainbows cuz that's GAY! So if you're a dude wearing a rainbow then you must be gay.

The context of it is a dead giveaway. They're in a parade. We just had a bunch of gay pride marches.

Again, I do know people who do dress like that and participate in public events. You need to come to our Ren. Faire and talk to the Pantsless Pirate

If you don't think those pictures are gay you lack good gaydar because those pictures are totally gay. They scream homo. That's simply the truth.

You can tell a person's sexual orientation from looking at a picture?

That's very talented of you, lets put you to the test, eh?

How about this one? He seems a bit gay doesn't he?

If you guessed gay, you guessed wrong. Eddie Izzard is a cross-dresser, not gay, and is actually married now (IIRC)

Lets try again!

How bout this guy? Positively DRIPPING with homosexuality!

Except he isnt. Tim Curry, while not married, has not come out as gay. This picture is of him dressed for his role in the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Oh, almost forgot, the Naked Cowboy has denied being gay multiple times

A picture will tell you very little about a person's orientation.

 

[Joachim]

Here's my thoughts on the matter.

We have a gay czar, right? I can't remember which dept. he serves) When he was appointed, headlines everywhere were "GAY MAN APPOINTED CZAR". For other appointments we didn't see "NON-GAY MAN APPOINTED..." or "HETEROSEXUAL MAN..."

It seems that for gay people, their sexuality must be attached to everything they do. And this isn't on them...it's on anyone who feels they have to attach it. We shouldn't have headlines that talk about one's sexuality when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

That's what I think of in terms of flaunting. I don't think that gays flaunt their physical sexuality any more than heterosexuals do.

It's because being gay is just so fabulous and so they have to advertise it to everyone.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Screaming and yelling about ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN isnt flaunting your heterosexuality? Seems like it to me.

And your point is what?

I would expect that those who believe marriage is between one man and one woman would talk from that vantage point.

What I'm talking about doesn't even really have to do with any rights issues. It's about headlines that talk about someone's sexuality when sexuality has nothing to do with it. "Gay man appointed head of ______" Who cares that he's gay? What does him being gay have to do with it?

Again, I do know people who do dress like that and participate in public events. You need to come to our Ren. Faire and talk to the Pantsless Pirate

We have a pantsless pirate at our Ren Fair too. And the Ded Bob show. And yeah, we have some pretty colorful characters too, some who I know are straight up straighter than arrows, but who would probably dress like the people in the parade.

 

[keith99]

Anyone been to New Orleans, Rio or for that matter a few cities in Germany for Mardi Gra or the other similar events. The gays are truely second rate when it comes to flaunting it. (But first rate when it comes to looking good in uniform).

 

[Zebra1552]

See now you're going off of gender stereotypes. Dudes cant like rainbows cuz that's GAY! So if you're a dude wearing a rainbow then you must be gay.

Um, no. Let me make this clear. Rainbows, especially recently, have been used in reference to gay rights and gay pride. In the picture, are a bunch of people representing a single gender in a parade with one. It's a safe assumption.

I have no problems with homosexuals, whatsoever. When I hear people saying 'that's gay', I stop them and ask why they're using such a term.

 

[Steezie]

And your point is what?

I would expect that those who believe marriage is between one man and one woman would talk from that vantage point.

What I'm talking about doesn't even really have to do with any rights issues. It's about headlines that talk about someone's sexuality when sexuality has nothing to do with it. "Gay man appointed head of ______" Who cares that he's gay? What does him being gay have to do with it?

Understand that much of that is the media pointing out that he's gay.

They do it sometimes with crimes when they report it. "A 20 year old BLACK man has shot his entire family in California today." The media adds little details in there that arent relevant for very cockeyed reasons.

My point is that people who are constantly saying "my wife" or "my husband" or who are championing one man one woman for marriage are also flaunting their sexuality. Even just wearing a wedding ring (since in most places gays cant marry) is still technically flaunting your sexuality.

 

[Steezie]

Um, no. Let me make this clear. Rainbows, especially recently, have been used in reference to gay rights and gay pride. In the picture, are a bunch of people representing a single gender in a parade with one. It's a safe assumption.

I have no problems with homosexuals, whatsoever. When I hear people saying 'that's gay', I stop them and ask why they're using such a term.

Then maybe I hang out with a different crowd, when someone is running around dressed like that, the typical answer when being asked why is "ITS TUESDAY!"

 

[Zebra1552]

Then maybe I hang out with a different crowd, when someone is running around dressed like that, the typical answer when being asked why is "ITS TUESDAY!"

I live in an extremely liberal student environment where any rainbow on campus rarely signifies anything but gay rights and gay pride.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Understand that much of that is the media pointing out that he's gay.

They do it sometimes with crimes when they report it. "A 20 year old BLACK man has shot his entire family in California today." The media adds little details in there that arent relevant for very cockeyed reasons.

The media sensationalizes stuff to make it newsworthy. A guy shooting his family might barely make front page these days, but oh ho! A BLACK man who shoots his entire family would definitely make for headline news.

It's sad.

When I wrote what I did, it was just my perception of why people feel that gays flaunt. I neither agree nor disagree with the stance. As you said, the media puts a lot out there that doesn't mean anything, but people pick it up and run with it.

My point is that people who are constantly saying "my wife" or "my husband" or who are championing one man one woman for marriage are also flaunting their sexuality. Even just wearing a wedding ring (since in most places gays cant marry) is still technically flaunting your sexuality.

That makes no sense whatsoever. You're basically saying that those of us who are married use those things to basically say "nyah nyah we're legally married and you're not" when that's not the case at all. I don't flaunt my marriage, but nor do I hide it.

I certainly hope that supporters of gay marriage don't have this as one of their talking points. I'm not flaunting anything by wearing my wedding ring. It's merely one more symbol that I'm married.

Oh, several of my gay friends have wedding rings as well.

Just as a sidenote (from our good friend Merriam Webster):

Main Entry: flaunt
Pronunciation: \ˈflȯnt, ˈflänt\
Function: verb
Etymology: perhaps of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse flana to rush around
Date: 1566
intransitive verb
1 : to display or obtrude oneself to public notice
2 : to wave or flutter showily
transitive verb
1 : to display ostentatiously or impudently
2 : to treat contemptuously

 

[Steezie]

That makes no sense whatsoever. You're basically saying that those of us who are married use those things to basically say "nyah nyah we're legally married and you're not" when that's not the case at all. I don't flaunt my marriage, but nor do I hide it.

I certainly hope that supporters of gay marriage don't have this as one of their talking points. I'm not flaunting anything by wearing my wedding ring. It's merely one more symbol that I'm married.

Oh, several of my gay friends have wedding rings as well.

My point is very simple: things that YOU dont consider flaunting (wedding rings, holding hands, talking about a significant other) are things that the gay community is criticized for all the time and people say they are FLAUNTING the fact that they are gay. I'm highlighting the double standard we seem to have with regards to treatment of gays versus heterosexuals.

We criticize gays for the same behavior we dismiss in straight people.