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I do not know what text exactly they saw. If they even knew there are different texts.
I think we have more sources than they did, thats why our situation is more complicated and our dogmas less dogmatic.
Do you have the NETS translation?
When & why ?
Gravity was not discovered it was invented.
Check sunsets, seasons, eclipses, gravity, meteorites, satellites, the ISS, flights in the southern hemisphere, different skies in different hemispheres etc.
Black is black & white is white just like the Masonic lodges checked floors. Check em out.
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He did not invent gravity, he discovered it.Issac Newton invented gravity in the late summer of 1666
It's a perfectly valid date. People were born, baptised, married and died in 1666 - just as in 1665, and any other date.(odd date)
You might have "checked" gravity; if you still think it was invented, you haven't learnt anything.Gravity checked
Gravity checked
Meteorites
Seasons checked
Satellites checked
The ISS
Different Skies
The two things I have not checked is the eclipses & the flights.
A modern reader can have all the manuscripts on one click, critical editions from all over the world, all the translations, commentaries, dictionaries etc. While in the times of "the church fathers", a manuscript was so expensive that it was very rare to even have the whole Bible. Most priests or scholars had some pieces or even only the extracts of the most known places. Only kings and very rich people could allow themselves to have a one whole piece of Bible. Not to say in various readings.The Church Fathers were not only aware of a multiplicity of texts, but they had access to far more ancient texts than we do.
I do not share your orthodox church centric view or your trust in "the church fathers". The situation is much more complicated than that.Thus, our situation is in fact less complicated, and our dogmas are more dogmatic, because of the destruction of historic manuscripts by the Muslims and other groups outside of the Orthodox Church (it is in our monasteries where manuscripts such as the Codex Sinaiticus were found)...
It may be scholarly or intellectually "stimulating", but it basically destroys any biblical inerrancy or word-for-word inspiration and similar, for all practical reasons.Yes I do, and I am aware of the multiplicity of versions of Daniel, which I find stimulating and intellectually interesting. On a doctrinal level these disparate versions are not a stumbling block, since Daniel is one of the most well-exegeted books of Old Testament prophecy.
Its interesting for a while, for example for cca 15 years of my life. After that, one must simply drop various view of the Bible that are not realistic.So when it comes to the different versions, I find them genuinely exciting and actively seek them out and read them.
Yep.That's b/c it is, the earth orbits the sun
Apollo is one of the Olympian deities in classical Greek and Roman religion and Greek and Roman mythology.Have you looked up the name Apollo yet ?
Gravity is a fundamental interaction that causes mutual attraction between all things that have mass.Then explain to me what gravity actually is,
God.who invented it
In the beginning, because it's the glue He uses to stick the universe togetherand when & why...........
and as a Christian clergyman, it would be spiritual malpractice for me to continue to fuel your fire by providing more arguments for you to react to.
Genesis was not written to you to believe in it. And you, sadly, have no idea how to even read it or what to use it for.Well as a clergyman I would have expected you to believe Genesis 1.
Genesis was not written to you to believe in it. And you, sadly, have no idea how to even read it or what to use it for.
Sorry, are you really saying that part of God's Word was not written for people to believe in it? Or did you mean that it was not written so that Apple Sky in particular should believe it? Either way, it seems wrong to me.Genesis was not written to you to believe in it. And you, sadly, have no idea how to even read it or what to use it for.
Nothing in the Old Testament was written to "general world public". It was written by Jews and to Jews and for their specific purpose. When somebody wants to read it, its very difficult without the knowledge of the ancient Jewish culture.Sorry, are you really saying that part of God's Word was not written for people to believe in it? Or did you mean that it was not written so that Apple Sky in particular should believe it? Either way, it seems wrong to me.
Not so, surely. For a start (no pun intended), the OT begins by describing a time before the Jews existed as a nation. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth" doesn't apply only to Jews. The New Testament refers back to the Old on numerous occasions with its prophecies, types and shadows of the Lord Jesus Christ, and He did not come only to save Jews.Nothing in the Old Testament was written to "general world public". It was written by Jews and to Jews and for their specific purpose. When somebody wants to read it, its very difficult without the knowledge of the ancient Jewish culture.
The OT Scriptures have never been meant to be universal.
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