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And still, none of your posts have anything to do with the thread topic. You simply want to hijack the thread for your own agenda.
I've learned something about some of the people posting in this thread. Nothing particularly good.Was it worth it, if you learned something?
I see you still haven't showed us the part where it says the earrth is flat.
Its just Latin for "Earth". Where do you think words like "extraterrestrial" come fromThere was once a petition to change the name of 'Earth' to 'Terra', can you believe it. I'm so glad that they didn't succeed.
My comment was not an attack on the Catholic Church but to show FE (the subject of this thread) believers that God sometimes spoke in metaphor, which is definitely what Jesus did when He said that He is the door and the vine. As regards anything to do the Lord's supper, that's another debate for another thread at another time.And how many times did our Lord drive away followers by using GP metaphors? How many though that say that He was a door caused any raised hackles? How many thought them a "hard saying, and wondering at who could hear it? If "take, eat, this is My Body" was a metaphor, what did it represent? And if it was simply a grossly misunderstood metaphor, why was our Lord willing to let His followers walk away rather than clarify it for them?
Too lame an "explanation" by far. It's an attempt to "explain away" what the entire Church had believed up until the folks like Zwingli decided that hard saying was just too bloody hard ( as well too bloody Catholic). So they "explained it away".
Once again I'm with Luther. I'd much rather drink Blood with the Pope than Welchade with the neo-Zwinglians.
No such argument was made. Genesis 1/2 are not mythological because I want to, or Psalms are not songs because I want to, or Isaiah is not prophetic, because I want to. Its their nature independent of my wanting.Yes and acknowledge all of that but we’re talking specifically about Genesis. You can’t just say that the Bible is filled with songs and poetry and metaphors then apply that to any portion you want, there are literary devices associated with each of these styles of writing. That’s like saying a car has a muffler so you can call any part on the car a muffler if you want, it’s not a viable argument.
Its not just a metaphor, Gen 1 is a mythological drama and Gen 2 is a mythological story/narrative.If the six day creation wasn’t intended to be taken literally it wouldn’t have been necessary to mention in verse 3 that God created the light and called the light day and the darkness night. There’s no purpose for making this statement if the six days are intended to be metaphorical for a period longer than a single day and not representative of six literal days. Furthermore there’s no purpose for specifically stating that there was evening and morning for each particular creation day if the word day was intended to be metaphorical for a period of time that is longer than a literal day. What is the metaphorical meaning? When a metaphor is used and the meaning isn’t either common knowledge or explicitly explained then it fails to serve a purpose. Why did you quote the passages about our kidneys being the source of our thoughts? Because it was an obvious metaphor that anyone could detect.
Agreed. Genesis and Psalms are different genres. As I already said several times, Psalms are songs and Gen 1/2 are mythological texts. But both genres are non-literal, thats what they have in common.Because there’s an obvious difference between the literary style and genre of Psalms and Genesis, they are not even remotely written in the same literary format.
Have you not had a history of literature in school? Or maybe an introduction to mythology in some philosophy subject?Ok that still falls into the category that the creation account is a false man made superstition
Only in your mind. I see it all with greater nuance. Genesis is a theological document, not a historical document. If you only see it as superstition derived from humans you cant appreciate the divinely inspired aspects I already mentioned.Ok that still falls into the category that the creation account is a false man made superstition because it didn’t derive from God and man had absolutely no way of knowing how the earth was created. So technically your interpretation of it did fall into the one of the two scenarios I presented.
Its just Latin for "Earth". Where do you think words like "extraterrestrial" come from
And you haven't acknowledged that God (not the writers who physically wrote the Bible) sometimes spoke in metaphor rather than the literal.
I like Tellus.There was once a petition to change the name of 'Earth' to 'Terra', can you believe it. I'm so glad that they didn't succeed.
Apparently not. Job 38:7 is God speaking, therefore it isn't the author of Job interpreting in metaphor. God specifically says that the morning stars sang together. One way or another that cannot be taken literally at the face value of the words. Either 'morning stars' are non-literal or 'singing' is non-literal.Nonsense - I know when it's a metaphor & when it's not.
I've learned something about some of the people posting in this thread. Nothing particularly good.
Its just Latin for "Earth".
But both genres are non-literal, thats what they have in common.
Even though crucifixion as a form of public punishment could be unknown, piercing hands and feet is not something they could not comprehend or formulate. They have seen all forms of violence.Do you realize that Psalm 22, which Jesus quoted at least the first verse from the Cross, describes a crucifixion in progress, when as yet crucifixions were never heard of?
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