Flat Earth Theory.

prodromos said:

The only 'evidence' you've put forward for the flat-earth model so far is your personal interpretation of Scripture. Every time you've been asked for physical evidence you've failed to provide anything valid.

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Well lets see some physical evidence for a spinning globe from your kind self.

Apple of Eden said:

Well lets see some physical evidence for a spinning globe from your kind self.

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Foucault's pendulum proves the earth rotates, and the amount of 'slip' is consistent with the latitude at which the pendulum is situated, zero degrees at the equator and 15 degrees at the North an South poles. The pendulums in the Southern Hemisphere slip in the opposite direction to those in the Northern Hemisphere, all consistent with the globe.
On a flat motionless earth, the pendulums would swing back and forth in the same plane of motion with no slip at all.

d taylor said:

-Satan uses many deceptions to keep people for receiving The life of God: religion, false gospels, money, sex/lust, drugs etc.. why do you think satan would not also use God's creation to deceive people.​

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Possibly he does. But I don't believe for one minute that the shape of the earth prevents someone from being saved.
You never hear evangelists including a flat earth in their Gospel presentations - even the NT writers didn't do that.
Jesus never said "believe in a flat earth and you will have eternal life."
The shape of the earth is not mentioned, or hinted at, in the Lord's Prayer, the Nicene creed or Apostles' creed.
The first Christian confession of faith was "Jesus is Lord", not "the earth is flat".
I don't believe that anyone says to a non Christian, "You believe that you are a sinner and cannot get to heaven by yourself, you accept that Jesus was, and is, God and that he died for you, you want to confess your sins and ask God to help you and have a relationship with him? Great! Now confess that the earth is flat, and you are ready to be saved". If they ever did, they should go back to college.
Satan hates God, Jesus and any mention of the cross. It is by the name of Jesus that Satan is overcome/driven out - not by stating that the earth is flat/round. In the book of Job it was Satan who said to God, "of course Job praises you, you have blessed him. Take that away and see what happens." Satan could only afflict Job up to a point. He was not powerful on his own, he needed God's permission before he could do anything. He never tried to get Job to change his ideas about the shape of the earth - he tried to get Job to curse God for his suffering, then he would die.

The only way that Satan uses this issue is by tying Christians up in knots so that they forget to concentrate on what is important. To get Christians fighting each other, so we forget we are supposed to be fighting him; persuading Christians to waste their time, and energy, debating unimportant, pointless issues instead of spending that time in prayer, mission or taking the Gospel to others.
And - like all the other interesting but trivial and non salvation issues that are debated on this forum, in church meetings and elsewhere - it looks like he's succeeding.

Just think what could happen if every Christian on this forum spent even half an hour a day extra in prayer for the world/Ukraine/Israel/Gaza instead of writing long posts? I can guarantee that all these debates would still be here when, or if, we got back - but what might have changed in that time?

Apple of Eden said:

Well lets see some physical evidence for a spinning globe from your kind self.

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The evidence is all around you; you don't believe it.

You have already said that you have no evidence for your position, yet you apparently KNOW that all photos of the earth taken from space, are a lie. You apparently KNOW that all books, articles, leaflets, interviews etc etc with those who actually went to the moon and observed the shape of the earth, and with scientists who measure the shape of the earth, are fake. You know for a fact that millions of others are lying, yet you have no evidence to support your own position.

Wow.

Bible passages

Apple of Eden said:

Bible passages

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O. Salvation is not determined, affected or changed depending on what you believe about the shape of the earth - a few million verses.

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You certainly seem to hate my posts

prodromos said:

You certainly seem to hate my posts

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I hate nothing & no one.

Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15

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Apple of Eden said:

Well lets see some physical evidence for a spinning globe from your kind self.

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1. The visibility of stars changes as one moves from the equator towards the poles. The "known" constellations go towards the horizon to be replaced by different stars, which wouldn't happen if the Earth was flat.

2. We predict lunar eclipses, comets and other movements of heavenly bodies based on the classic understanding of cosmos and Newtonian laws of motion. We watch and monitor the planets and asteroids around us. We have been able to send objects on those planets and even on some asteroids, based upon our math and understanding of physics.

3. Plenty of people from many nationalities, Christians included, were in the space or work in the space industry. To believe its all faked is too preposterous. It would be similar to me not believing the USA exist, even though there is evidence of it everywhere in daily life.

Doesnt matter how much real, scientific evidence you give for a globe earth as flat earthers reject logic and pure reality.

Lost4words said:

Doesnt matter how much real, scientific evidence you give for a globe earth as flat earthers reject logic and pure reality.

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Tell me, how does water stay on a spinning ball ? Water always finds it's own level. What is more logical to presume ?

Apple of Eden said:

Tell me, how does water stay on a spinning ball ?

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If by the ball you mean our planet, then the combination of gravity, intertia and atmospheric pressure.

Have you noticed we have answers to all your questions, but you cannot answer ours? Tell me, how can you predict a lunar eclipse with a flat earth model.

Apple of Eden said:

Tell me, how does water stay on a spinning ball ? Water always finds it's own level. What is more logical to presume ?

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Why presume anything?
Why not find out the facts?

A child asks "why" because they want to know.
A wise child will check out the answer/ask several people until they are satisfied.
A very young child, or one who is not able to learn, will say "I can't see it/work it out, so it's not true." Like when they say "I have my hands in front of my eyes; you can't see me."

myst33 said:

If by the ball you mean our planet, then the combination of gravity, intertia and atmospheric pressure.

Have you noticed we have answers to all your questions, but you cannot answer ours? Tell me, how can you predict a lunar eclipse with a flat earth model.

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He's already said he doesn't have any evidence for his position, so don't hold your breath.

Strong in Him said:

He's already said he doesn't have any evidence for his position, so don't hold your breath.

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I wonder if he will also admit that the flat earth model is not useful, i.e. does not work.

Apple of Eden said:

Tell me, how does water stay on a spinning ball ? Water always finds it's own level. What is more logical to presume ?

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Science has the answer. You fail to grasp that answer! Simple really.

myst33 said:

I wonder if he will also admit that the flat earth model is not useful, i.e. does not work.

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I won't hold my breath.

myst33 said:

I wonder if he will also admit that the flat earth model is not useful, i.e. does not work.

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He is a she..........

Lost4words said:

Science has the answer. You fail to grasp that answer! Simple really.

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Can't you tell me ?

Apple of Eden said:

Can't you tell me ?

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You've already been told by multiple people.

Watch a ball spin with a rotation rate of once every 24 hours. You won't see water flying off it. It's not the surface speed that throws things off, it's the rotation rate.