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Flashback: Bill Clinton Fired FBI Director Sessions

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The Last President To Fire An FBI Director? Clinton

The only other president to fire an FBI director was Bill Clinton in the summer of 1993. During Clinton’s first few months in office, he repeatedly asked FBI director William Sessions, a President Ronald Reagan appointee, to resign in the wake of numerous ethics allegations from the Department of Justice.

Sessions was known for outrageous personal use of FBI travel resources, and had lost the trust of his own bureau. A Justice Department report from January 1993 alleged that Sessions routinely used FBI planes and cars and staff time for personal use. According to the report, he
allegedly ordered his bodyguards to fly a load of firewood from New York to Washington, D.C., commissioned FBI technicians to build a $22,500 cabinet for his office, and would fly to Los Angeles, Calif., once a year on FBI an plane to watch his daughter’s professional ballet performances.

Sessions contended the report was riddled with errors and politically motivated. The New York Times reported at the time that Sessions had run afoul of President George H.W. Bush’s administration.


Many Democrats who previously called for Comey’s removal expressed shock at Trump’s abrupt move Tuesday, calling it troubling, Nixonian, or even a constitutional crisis in light of investigations into possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

Of course, Sessions ethics were not the real reason he was fired. Anyone remember what was going on at the time?

Washingtonpost.com: Whitewater Time Line

May 1993
White House fires seven employees in the travel office, possibly to make room for Clinton friends. An FBI investigation of the office ensues, allegedly opened under pressure from the White House to justify the firings.

June 1993
Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster files three years of delinquent Whitewater corporate tax returns.

July 1993
Foster is found dead in a Washington area park. Police rule the death a suicide. Federal investigators are not allowed access to Foster's office immediately after the discovery, but White House aides enter Foster's office shortly after his death, giving rise to speculation that files were removed from his office.


Sessions was fired July 19th, 1993.

September 1993
First of three meetings in which Treasury Department officials tip off Clinton aides about the progress of the RTC investigation.

Any idea who was also involved as a deputy special council to the Senate Whitewater Committee?

James Comey!

Comey’s first brush with them came when Bill Clinton was president. Looking to get back into government after a stint in private practice, Comey signed on as deputy special counsel to the Senate Whitewater Committee. In 1996, after months of work, Comey came to some damning conclusions: Hillary Clinton was personally involved in mishandling documents and had ordered others to block investigators as they pursued their case. Worse, her behavior fit into a pattern of concealment: she and her husband had tried to hide their roles in two other matters under investigation by law enforcement. Taken together, the interference by White House officials, which included destruction of documents, amounted to “far more than just aggressive lawyering or political naiveté,” Comey and his fellow investigators concluded. It constituted “a highly improper pattern of deliberate misconduct.”

Inside the FBI Investigation of Hillary Clinton's E-Mail

The Clinton's have never changed. The email scandal with Hillary mirrors almost exactly what went on with Whitewater. At that time, Comey also layed out a criminal case but again nothing happened. This is just too deja vu!
 

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Facts are different:

The last president to fire an FBI director? Bill Clinton

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.​


So there were ethical concerns following a completed investigation.

In contrast, the Inspector General investigation is still ongoing. There is no completed investigation on Comey. Instead, Trump did this for questionable reasons.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html

WASHINGTON — Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I.director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in resources for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to four congressional officials, including Senator Richard J. Durbin.

Mr. Comey made his appeal to Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, who also wrote the Justice Department’s memo that was used to justify the firing of Mr. Comey this week, the officials said.

“I’m told that as soon as Rosenstein arrived, there was a request for additional resources for the investigation and that a few days afterwards, he was sacked,” said Mr. Durbin, a Democrat of Illinois. “I think the Comey operation was breathing down the neck of the Trump campaign and their operatives, and this was an effort to slow down the investigation.”​

And it is becoming a pattern for the Trump administration to try and hinder the Russia investigation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/james-comey-fired-fbi.html


The stunning development in Mr. Trump’s presidency raised the specter of political interference by a sitting president into an existing investigation by the nation’s leading law enforcement agency. It immediately ignited Democratic calls for a special counsel to lead the Russia inquiry.

Mr. Trump explained the firing by citing Mr. Comey’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, even though the president was widely seen to have benefited politically from that inquiry and had once praised Mr. Comey for his “guts” in his pursuit of Mrs. Clinton during the campaign.​

Dems aren't so crazy to believe Trump did it because of Hillary at this point.
It is about Russia.


Behind Comey’s firing: An enraged Trump, fuming about Russia

President Donald Trump weighed firing his FBI director for more than a week. When he finally pulled the trigger Tuesday afternoon, he didn't call James Comey. He sent his longtime private security guard to deliver the termination letter in a manila folder to FBI headquarters.

He had grown enraged by the Russia investigation, two advisers said, frustrated by his inability to control the mushrooming narrative around Russia. He repeatedly asked aides why the Russia investigation wouldn’t disappear and demanded they speak out for him. He would sometimes scream at television clips about the probe, one adviser said.​
 
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Indeed, the President has the authority to fire the FBI Director.

In this case President Clinton would have had a tough time keeping Mr Sessions in place in the face of extensive ethics violations.


Published: January 19, 1993
But Administration officials said Mr. Barr's [Attorney General] memorandum adopted the report's findings, concluding that Mr. Sessions falsely claimed a tax exemption on the home-to-work use of his official limousine, billed the Government for personal trips on Federal Bureau of Investigation aircraft, built a security fence for his home at Government expense and did not cooperate with investigators looking into accusations that he received special treatment from a bank on his mortgage loan for his house in Washington. Career-Threatening Crisis

Mr. Barr's memorandum, which accused Mr. Sessions of violating rules that he enforced against his own agents, plunged Mr. Sessions into a career-threatening crisis five years into his 10-year term.

F.B.I. CHIEF PLANS TO FIGHT FOR JOB
 
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In other words, Williams Sessions was not involved in an investigation of Clinton and was found to be in violation of ethical standards.

Comey was fired in the midst of an investigation involving the Trump campaign, and is not guilty of ethical violations per a completed investigation.

I have mixed feelings on this as I do not think he was acting appropriately in discussing Clinton's investigation and not discussing the investigation into the Trump campaign. However, Trump fired Yates after telling him about how Flynn was compromised (though supposedly for refusing to defend the first Muslim ban which Trump had directed that she not see it before it was signed), and after asking Preet Bharara to stay, fired him as he was investigating a Trump business partner.

And immediately after firing Comey, the message from the White House is to "move on from the Russia investigation." hmmmmm
 
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Honest question:

This is no doubt from an anonymous source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

What makes this believable, and the reports from an anonymous source, speaking on condition of anonymity who spoke about Hillary's screaming and throwing tirade supposedly saying " if this 'expletive deleted' gets elected we are all going to hang

Where is the measuring line? What makes one report valid and the other not?
 
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This is off topic but the Hillary story was reported by Breitbart who would not be allowed in the campaign headquarters and was not a proven story during a time when Macedonian teens and Russian hackers were spreading fake news stories about her. In contrast, Trump cannot quit tweeting about things, included a statement in the letter to Comey that betrays his fixation on the Russia investigation, and his team is immediately saying it is time to move on from the Russia investigation. And his team is not denying the same reports saying that Trump was considering firing Comey for a week.

You can believe what you wish.

That this happened a few days after Comey asked for more money for the investigation, after Comey refused to back up Trump's claim that Obama wire-tapped him, a week after Comey testified that he was also working with federal investigators in Virginia and, I believe, New York after praising Comey for so long....that supports the narative that Trump was upset with the Russia investigation.

As to why revealing that the FBI and Comey were working with federal prosecutors in Virginia is important - it meant there were grand juries involved:


CNN exclusive: Grand jury subpoenas issued in FBI's Russia investigation - CNNPolitics.com

Washington (CNN)Federal prosecutors have issued grand jury subpoenas to associates of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn seeking business records, as part of the ongoing probe of Russian meddling in last year's election, according to people familiar with the matter. CNN learned of the subpoenas hours before President Donald Trump fired FBI director James Comey.

The subpoenas represent the first sign of a significant escalation of activity in the FBI's broader investigation begun last July into possible ties between Trump campaign associates and Russia.
The subpoenas issued in recent weeks by the US Attorney's Office in Alexandria, Virginia, were received by associates who worked with Flynn on contracts after he was forced out as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014, according to the people familiar with the investigation.
Robert Kelner, an attorney for Flynn, declined to comment. The US Attorney's Office in Alexandria, the Justice Department and the FBI also declined to comment.​

That might think that firing Comey and getting his own guy in the FBI to help him out is not out of reach considering some of his other actions.
 
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I'm sorry, but if you're comparing a person fired for misappropriating funds for personal gain with a person working on an ongoing investigation into people connected to the president and a foreign government, it comes across as you not even bothering to look at the details.

Do people even bother reading the details on a story?

Defiant FBI Chief Is Fired by President : Law enforcement: Alleged ethical abuses by Sessions are cited as reason for dismissal. He refused to resign.
July 20, 1993
Did you see that? An investigation was carried out by the Bush administration's Justice Department and they found Sessions to be in the wrong. Their investigation also took longer than a week.

Again, do people even bother to read the details of a story?
 
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Honest question:

This is no doubt from an anonymous source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Two sources, based on the report.

What makes this believable

Given his track record, two anonymous sources are more believable than anything Trump says. Times like these is would have done him some good not to have lied so much in the past.
 
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As to why revealing that the FBI and Comey were working with federal prosecutors in Virginia is important - it meant there were grand juries involved:

Also, Presidents can't pardon people for state convictions as far as I know, assuming they're working with local prosecutors.
 
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Also, Presidents can't pardon people for state convictions as far as I know, assuming they're working with local prosecutors.
Well, they are federal prosecutors and not state ones, just based in Virginia, so Trump may be able to pardon him in the end - but first there needs to be a conviction and sentence.

As federal cases take a long time, Trump may be out of the picture by then. Who knows?
 
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Well, they are federal prosecutors and not state ones, just based in Virginia, so Trump may be able to pardon him in the end - but first there needs to be a conviction and sentence.

Yep, agree. But I can imagine they have contacts with state prosecutors as well. Like you say :

Who knows?
 
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I have already addressed these issues and as it turns out, there is virtually no evidence of any of it. It's all Enquirer style gossip with no substantiation. As long as Trump hostile media is the source of all the speculation, there's reason to be skeptical of anything stated. One thing is certain, they will beat the Russia thing forever even though after nearly a year of spying and investigation NOTHING has turned up. Further, there is NO proof that Trump is under investigation.
 
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I not only read them, I quoted them and addressed them! Did you see that? So here's the deal; who fired Sessions and when did he fire him?
 
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Yes, the Bush administration led an investigation, found wrongdoing, but it's simply "gossip." When presented with facts, you simply choose to ignore them, this thread is fruitless if you refuse to integrate new information.
 
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