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FIVE REASONS NOT TO GO SEE THE PASSION OF CHRIST

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All things work together for the good of them that love God and are called according to His purpose -- need we say more?
ShetlandRose said:
My husband always says..."Some people wouldn't be happy if they were hung with a new rope!" (whatever that means). I say if the Holy Spirit chose Mel Gibson to make a film about Jesus Christ, then He Himself planted the seed in his mind and heart. God's hand would direct it, and if there is a little of "Mel" in it, that is okay too. We aren't finished yet! We're still being formed and molded. If thousands or even millions are touched and turn their hearts and lives to Jesus, then it is of God. Wise old Gamaliel, a teacher of the Law and of Paul, said to "take care...for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown; but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow (it); or else you may even be found fighting against God."

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narrowgate said:
Also, did you know that Mel Gibson, became born again during the making of this movie? Now isn't that wonderful?

That's interesting... I remember him saying the Holy Spriit directed him to make this movie, but if he was not a christian before making the movie, he did not have the guidance of the holy spirit. Makes me wonder about some things...
Emm...are you sure about that? The reason he made the film is because he's a catholic, albeit part of an obscure splinter group which rejects Vatican II.

blessings,
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I haven't seen the film yet, it's not out in the UK till March 20-somethingth, but this I know for sure; this is one film which wont be better than the book! :)D lol ha ha ha, hope you don't mind me laughing at my own joke).


cheers,
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hehehe, I like that, no, it will never compare to the Bible, but, in some ways I think it is a bit better, because it shows us more graphically what Jesus went through, and how horrid crucifiction(sp?) is, cause I think a lot of people have a very sanitized view of what Jesus truly went through, and this film shows how truly difficult it was for him to endure being crucified. No it isn't better than the Bible, but it does give us a better picture than any words can ever give us.
 
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Non-Christians may not "get" the film on their own, but that's where we Christians come in, and that's why this film should be a good evangelism tool. People will be talking about it, and we can explain the whole point of Christ's sacrifice to anyone who wants to know. Of course, we can do that without the movie, but this makes it alot easier to bring up in "casual" conversation, which alot of us have trouble with (myself included).

Everything I've read about it indicates that Mel Gibson was already a follower of Christ before he started making the movie. He had a turnaround experience with Christ several years ago, and through studying the "wounds of Christ", meditating on His suffering and death for us, Mel claims he was "healed" -- spiritually and emotionally was the gist of what I understood. There were a number of "miracles" reported during the filming, and several other cast and crew members chose to follow Christ as a result of their involvement. (This from reading articles in Newsweek, Outreach Magazine, and Decision, to name a few.)

A cool sidenote -- I was volunteering in my son's school library this morning, and the librarian said her adult son saw it Wednesday night and was so moved by it that he came home and woke his parents up to talk about it. I think they're marginal churchgoers. Anyway, she said that her son said, "This makes me really want to dig further into what Christianity is all about!" Score one for Mel and for the Holy Spirit!
 
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Mel Gibson's film "The Passion of the Christ" has been hailed as the gospel truth by some believers, but some scholars say that it is riddled with historical errors. Gibson says he consulted scholars, theologians and priests before scripting the film with the aim of making Jesus's agony during the crucifixion appear as realistic as possible. Billy Graham called the film "a lifetime of sermons in one movie." Which it indeed is, since it depicts Christs suffering so well. But other scenes seem curious. Like the scene where Mary is soaking up the blood of Jesus from the floor where Jesus had been flailed nearly to death, and then pressing the blood up to her lips. To understand this we need to understand Mel Gibson’s faith. Early in the filming of The Passion, Mel Gibson gave a long interview to Raymond Arroyo on the Catholic network EWTN. Mel Gibson explained how he calls Mary co-redemptrix. Gibson went on to tell told how actor Jim Caviezel, the film's Jesus, insisted on beginning each day of filming with the celebration of the Mass on the set. He also recounted a series of divine coincidences that led him to read the works of Anne Catherine Emmerich, a late-18th, early-19th-century Westphalian nun who had visions of the events of the Passion. Many of the details needed to fill out the Gospel accounts he drew from her book, Dolorous Passion of Our Lord. This probably explains the more curious scenes with Mary’s obsession with Jesus’ blood. She may well have understood more than any, the pivotal event that was unfolding, but we have no scriptural evidence to support the claims of Anne Catherine Emmerich.The film also depicts the characters speaking in Latin and Aramaic. Experts say this was Gibson’s first mistake, because Greek was the language spoken in Jerusalem during Jesus' time, along with Aramaic and some Hebrew spoken by Jews. "Jesus talking to Pilate and Pilate to Jesus in Latin!" exclaimed John Crossan, a professor of religious studies at the Chicago-based Roman Catholic De Paul University. "I mean in your dreams. It would have been Greek." Latin was reserved for official decrees or used by the elite. Most Roman centurions in the Holy Land spoke Greek rather than Latin, historians and archaeologists told Reuters. The scenes where Pilate is speaking to his wife may have Latin, but the likelihood of any soldier in that time and place speaking Latin on the street seems next to nil. This obviously comes from Gibson’s Catholic bias. I still liked the movie and thought it was excellent, and would recommend it highly.

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WesleyJohn said:
Do you think that it was blasphemy for Campus Crusade for Christ to create The JESUS Film ...
Motor City Christian said:
So does this mean Easter performances can't be held anymore? There have been many movies made with Jesus, I guess they should be burned then, huh?
Exodus 23:2
Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil;
 
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I just came back from this movie. One word. Bloody. I mean Jesus blood was everywhere. I mean they pierce his side and blood gushes out onto the face of the soldier. Blood dripping in slow motion from his hair. Blood dripping from the nails onto the ground and we hear "DRIP DRIP" :o. When he got his lashes that was the most violent thing I've seen in a LONG time. Jesus' flesh being torn off with the lashing tools. Blood splattering onto the faces of the soldiers doing the whipping. Jesus carrying his cross and he falls and his face hits the ground in slow motion and blood spitting out his mouth. I mean this movie was just pure bloody. I understand the reality of the death of Christ but the movie was too replusive to watch. I would NEVER EVER EVER take a child to this movie. And what was the deal with Judas' delusion :confused: Where in the world did they get that script from :scratch:. I mean the donkey Jesus rode in on was dead ?????? And that conversation with Satan in the Garden Getsemine (sp? yea I know it's spelled wrong) Where did they get that script from as well.

But the sound track was AWESOME. I'm buying the soundtract that's for sure :)
 
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GraceDancer said:
Non-Christians may not "get" the film on their own
Ya think :confused:

If a person is not a Christian this movie will make no sense. Without showing the ministry of Christ (as this movie did not do) then the death of Christ makes no sense. All this movie did was show how Christ died without helping the viewer understand why he was killed and why his death should matter to us in 2004. It was just a "The death of Christ" movie. :cry:

Nothing in that movie was geared to help anybody understand salvation.
 
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This movie was awesome. Reasons cant compare to what this movie was like. It was not stop torture that showed you what Jesus went throw. I loved it. I cried and it changed my life. It made me look at my Christianity and think wow....What have I been doing with my life....I would recommend it to anyone. Thanks and God Bless
 
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I wound not use this movie as a witnessing tool...ever. It's not designed for someone who does not know Christianity. Yes, people were crying in the theater and the whole movie would have been worth it if the resurrection had more screen time. But it was like 2 min :confused:

Oh and where in the world did they get the part where the black crow landed on the cross of the thief and pecked the thief's eye out ???????

Bloody movie.
 
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JahRawks said:
hehehe, I like that, no, it will never compare to the Bible, but, in some ways I think it is a bit better, because it shows us more graphically what Jesus went through, and how horrid crucifiction(sp?) is, cause I think a lot of people have a very sanitized view of what Jesus truly went through, and this film shows how truly difficult it was for him to endure being crucified. No it isn't better than the Bible, but it does give us a better picture than any words can ever give us.
True we sometimes can forget the physical suffering Christ endured, but as John 'Rabbi' Duncan said 'The soul of his suffering was the suffering of his soul.' This is something no filmaker will ever be able to accurately portray.

blessings,
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theFijian said:
True we sometimes can forget the physical suffering Christ endured, but as John 'Rabbi' Duncan said 'The sould of his suffering was the suffering of his soul.' This is something no filmaker will ever be able to accurately portray.

blessings,
Andy

Good point Fijian. It's interesting to me that everyone came out saying "what a sacrifice Jesus made for me!" And I was thinking, the movie only showed the physical side of it, which was not really significant compared to his spiritual suffering. The Romans crucified thousands of people around this time in history, and many had a worse lot than Jesus physically. However, none of them went through the spiritual agony that Christ had to endure.
 
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narrowgate said:
Also, did you know that Mel Gibson, became born again during the making of this movie? Now isn't that wonderful?

That's interesting... I remember him saying the Holy Spriit directed him to make this movie, but if he was not a christian before making the movie, he did not have the guidance of the holy spirit. Makes me wonder about some things...


uhhh...where did you get this information about Mel becoming "Born again" during this movie? Please post your source?
 
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Shekinahs said:
Ya think :confused:

If a person is not a Christian this movie will make no sense. Without showing the ministry of Christ (as this movie did not do) then the death of Christ makes no sense. All this movie did was show how Christ died without helping the viewer understand why he was killed and why his death should matter to us in 2004. It was just a "The death of Christ" movie. :cry:

Nothing in that movie was geared to help anybody understand salvation.


yeah, umm...I think Mel was aware of that and that is why he said he wanted people to want to hear the rest of the story.. Nice concept, huh?
 
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Shekinahs said:
I wound not use this movie as a witnessing tool...ever. It's not designed for someone who does not know Christianity. Yes, people were crying in the theater and the whole movie would have been worth it if the resurrection had more screen time. But it was like 2 min :confused:

Oh and where in the world did they get the part where the black crow landed on the cross of the thief and pecked the thief's eye out ???????

Bloody movie.
Isn't that what used to happen to those who were crucified? Birds would peck their eyes out... that's what I've heard, anyway.
 
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nadroj1985 said:
The Romans crucified thousands of people around this time in history, and many had a worse lot than Jesus physically.
I'd like to know what your basis for that is. The Bible says that Jesus' face and form was "marred more than any man" (Isaiah 52:14).
 
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