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So I've been re-reading Genesis and now I wonder: Was Adam & Eve eating of the fruit the creation of man's sinful nature or our first example of out sinful nature?
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Adam was not a sinner until he sinned.
The same is true for each of his descendants.
The same is true for each of his descendants.
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Which probably raises more questions in regard to just why did they sin if they had no sin nature and what is sin nature if it is not the pull towards sin in us causing us to sin. As obviously up till this point they had no sin nature.
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Before the fall Adam and Eve were not "sinless" they were innocent ... as there was no sin in the world ...
All Creation was affected by that fall ... and continues to suffer under that burden ...
We see in scripture that the spiritual effect of that fall is passed on to all of Adams offsprings...
We are not sinners because we sin...we sin because we are born sinners ....
Romans 5:
12Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all mene because all sinned— 13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
15But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.16And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 17For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
18Therefore, as one trespassf led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousnessg leads to justification and life for all men. 19For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous. 20Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, 21so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Sounds like the what came first paradox; the Chicken or Egg?
People will hide behind translations of single words instead of actually thinking about the paradox. They deny sinful nature being in the Bible but explain the paradox with free will that is even farther from scripture. In the end people will believe what is easiest for them to believe; that is usually what their pastor or professor taught them.
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Adam did not sin in the Garden, (he disobeyed the command), and he did not sin
The rest of his life. Abel he did
not sin, Kain did sin.
The rest of his life. Abel he did
not sin, Kain did sin.
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Best friend
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Adam was within the will
of God to pultiplied and
to his instruction to
Follow your WIFE, and
Leave your mother and
Father. Good request for
scripture. It's on the way.
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Best friend
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Hi, rnmomof7 these
are some of the scriptures.
Genesis 1:28, and God
Bless them, be fruitful
and multiply, and
replenish the earth....
1:27, ....male and female
created he them. 2:22....
Made him a woman and
he brought her unto
The man.2:24, therefore,
shall a man leave his
Father and his Mother
and sall cleave unto his
wife and they sall be
one flesh. 3:6, ....the
woman took from the
fruit, and did eat, and
gave also unto her
Husband, and he did
eat. (it's done, the only
Pair is not separated,
Adam follow her)(so he
can give her children, or
Life within) now they
have the knowledge of
Good and evil. 4:5 ...he had
no respect, and Cain
was very wroth...6, why
are you very wroth...7.if
Thou does well, shall
Thou not be accepted?
and if thou does not
Well, SIN lieth at your
door.......8, and Cain rose up
against ABEL his brother
and slew him. 16: and
Cain went out from the
PRESENCE of the LORD
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Best friend
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.
Are you looking for a
Scripture in the book of
Genesis that say Adam
Sin or that he did not
Sin, the scripture is
That Adam disobeyed God.
With the tree of
Knowledge, did God
Called him a sinner? And
Went on to discrive
His Sin? Abraham also
Disobeyd God, but the
Lord did not called him
a sinner, and he continiou
To have him in his
Presence the same way
as before, not only he
Accepted him as without
Sin, but he took him in
The heavens. That's a
Strange situation, the
Man who had committed
a murder he had told
Him , take off your sandals
and stand on holy ground
Did he give him holiness?
Did Moses sin, when he
Kill the man? Who has a
Better resume Moses or
Adam? The first Sin it was
Committed by Cain.
Centerly Cain did not
Committe any sin, and we have also Jonh the Baptis,
Without any disput both
of them they were sinless.
Both of them they did not
Needed forgiveness of
Sins, what is that, that
They both needed?
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