FIRST of all the COMMANDMENTS

[fil3232003]

What did our Lord Jesus mean by the “First of all the commandments” in the following?

• Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

At first glance, “The Lord our God is one Lord” is not even a commandment. But He followed this with the Two Great Commandments.

• Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

• Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Any comment?

 

[fil3232003]

Did our Lord intend "The first of all the commandments" as a prerequisite to the Two Great Commandments?

If so, how do we "follow or obey" since He called it a "commandment?"

 

[mshupe1959]

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is: "Hear, Israel. The Lord our God is one Lord,
Mar 12:30 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul" and with all your mind, "and with all your strength." This is the first commandment. Deut. 6:4, 5
Mar 12:31 And the second is like this, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." There is not another commandment greater than these. Lev. 19:18


If you want to break it down to periods and comma's, the first could as well be :Hear O Israel," but my personal opinion is that "The Lord our God is one Lord,
Mar 12:30 and you shall love the Lord your God " is one continuous thought and all part of the greatest Commandment.

 

[Cribstyl]

I believe that Jesus meant, which is the greatest or most important among all the commandments.
#1 (paraphrased commentary)
"There is one God, so love Him with all your ability. Then secondly, love your neighbors as you love yourself.

 

[fil3232003]

Does not our Lord want us to identify the One True God that we profess to love and worship?

As it is, there are religions and Christian sects that do not agree on the identity of this One God.

I suppose this is based on the fundamental principle of: "TO KNOW comes before LOVE."

Any feedback?

 

[mshupe1959]

hmmm, In the beginning, God created us in His image, and we have been trying to create our own image of God ever since then.

This may not be the best of analogies, but have you ever had a pet? Can you say that pet ever really knew you, all your likes, desires, how you think and reason? That pet couldn't possibly know these things about you because they don't have the reasoning capabilities you have, but they love you unconditionally, just the same. In that respect, they do a better job than we do. Something to think about.

We don't all have to agree on who He is to love Him.

 

[fil3232003]

Our Lord Jesus Christ rebuked His listeners saying:

• Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

Philip and the other Apostles wanted to see FATHER God. It seems they were at a loss as to the real IDENTITY of Jesus:

Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

From the following statement of our Lord, it appears as if He has a dual role.

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Therefore, can we not trace the IDENTITY of Jesus Christ through FATHER God from the beginning?

 

[fil3232003]

How deep and overwhelming declaring, “Jesus is the CHRIST and the SON of the
living God,” that when Simon Peter rightly identified Him, He told the lowly
fisherman:

• Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Does our Lord want us to realize that from this “simple” declaration it would lead us
to the identity of FATHER God? As it is, His rebuke in the following keeps on
bothering us:

• Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

What/who did Simon Peter see in Jesus when he told Him He is the CHRIST that means Savior, Messiah, or Redeemer, that everybody claims He is and yet they cannot agree on His real identity?

• Some say, “Jesus is only a man and not God”
• Others say, “Jesus is only a mighty God for there is a supreme or Almighty God”
• Still others say, “Jesus Christ is the name of the Father and the Holy Spirit”
• Many, and we say, “Jesus is both God and man and He is the second person of the Trinity.”

From this declaration (identification) and by saying, “Thou art the Son of the living God,” Peter must have been exempted from Jesus’ rebuke in Joh 8:19, that our Lord told him:

• Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

 

[anisavta]

Deu 6:4 HEAR, O ISRAEL: THE LORD OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONE.
Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be upon thy heart;
Deu 6:7 and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
Deu 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes.
Deu 6:9 And thou shalt write them upon the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates.

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thy heart; thou shalt surely rebuke thy neighbour, and not bear sin because of him.
Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Sh'ma Israel (hear O Israel) is indeed a command.
Ex. 20:3-11 Loving G~d with the whole being
Ex. 20:12-17 Loving one's neighbor as oneself

 

[fil3232003]

When Simon Peter declared,

• Mat 16:16 … Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Jesus told him,

• Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

I don’t know when we, and many people, declare the same thing about Jesus whether He also tells us, “flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

Simon Peter by declaring Jesus is the CHRIST must have recognized Him as the Savior. In one of several verses, we “hear” Father God claiming He is the only Savior:

• Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

In the statement of God, there is a query that needs an answer. Who is the known the Savior beside Father God? Is it not Jesus who is "sitting/standing" at His right hand? (Several verses)

I heard some preachers explaining the foregoing as Father God saving the Israelites from slavery alone and without another aside from Him.

What really does Father God mean by, “beside me there is no savior?” What kind of salvation does He refer?

 

[anisavta]

The Hebrew for "saviour" in the passage is yeshah which means to be open or wide or free. It is from the same root that Yeshua (salvation) is from.

 

[fil3232003]

In the statement of God, there is a query that needs an answer. Who is the known Savior beside Father God? Is it not Jesus who is "sitting/standing" at His right hand? (Several verses)

I heard some preachers explaining the foregoing as Father God saving the Israelites from slavery alone and without another aside from Him.

What really does Father God mean by, “beside me there is no savior?” What kind of salvation does He refer?

After the FALL, God’s plan of having eternal companions had to be pursued and completed.

The first step was to deliver the Israelites from slavery, then passed them through the wilderness for 40 years, with the ultimate objective of settling them permanently in Canaan. He told His chosen, that is the Promised Land that is “flowing with milk and honey.” Of course this could not be literal-physical, but a figure of speech for Eternal life in His kingdom.

Therefore this is spiritual SALVATION that believers of the Holy Bible are aspiring to attain.

 

[fil3232003]

In the statement of God, there is a query that needs an answer. Who is the known Savior beside Father God? Is it not Jesus who is "sitting/standing" at His right hand? (Several verses)

I heard some preachers explaining the foregoing as Father God saving the Israelites from slavery alone and without another aside from Him.

What really does Father God mean by, “beside me there is no savior?” What kind of salvation does He refer?

After the FALL, God’s plan of having eternal companions had to be pursued and completed.

The first step was to deliver the Israelites from slavery, then passed them through the wilderness for 40 years, with the ultimate objective of settling them permanently in Canaan. He told His chosen, that is the Promised Land that is “flowing with milk and honey.” Of course this could not be literal-physical, but a figure of speech for Eternal life in His kingdom.

Therefore this is spiritual SALVATION that believers of the Holy Bible are aspiring to attain.

 

[anisavta]

After the FALL, God’s plan of having eternal companions had to be pursued and completed.

The first step was to deliver the Israelites from slavery, then passed them through the wilderness for 40 years, with the ultimate objective of settling them permanently in Canaan. He told His chosen, that is the Promised Land that is “flowing with milk and honey.”Of course this could not be literal-physical, but a figure of speech for Eternal life in His kingdom.

Therefore this is spiritual SALVATION that believers of the Holy Bible are aspiring to attain.

And you are sure of this because.....?

 

[fil3232003]

Perhaps everybody believes SALVATION pertains to “being with God in His eternal kingdom.”

With the FALL of man, how did FATHER God plan His “rescue operation?”

Any feedback?

 

[anisavta]

.”Of course this could not be literal-physical, but a figure of speech for Eternal life in His kingdom.

Could you please not just make a statement and then pretend the elephant in the room does not exist. What do you mean by literal-physical?

 

[fil3232003]

.”Of course this could not be literal-physical, but a figure of speech for Eternal life in His kingdom.

Could you please not just make a statement and then pretend the elephant in the room does not exist. What do you mean by literal-physical?

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After the FALL, God’s plan of having eternal companions had to be pursued and completed.

The first step was to deliver the Israelites from slavery, then passed them through the wilderness for 40 years, with the ultimate objective of settling them permanently in Canaan. He told His chosen, that is the Promised Land that is “flowing with milk and honey.” Of course this could not be literal-physical, but a figure of speech for Eternal life in His kingdom.

Therefore this is spiritual SALVATION that believers of the Holy Bible are aspiring to attain.
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Canaan, the destination of the Israelites after WILDERNESS, where it is promised “flowing with milk and honey” is not literal-physical. Very clearly, this pertains to spiritual SALVATION where the chosen of God will be with Him in His Eternal Kingdom.

 

[anisavta]

I'm still waiting for you to explain where you came up with this "revelation". Show me in scripture how clear this is.
Who are the "chosen of G~d"?
Why is "flowing with milk and honey" not literal?

Last time I was in Israel (in Oct.) it was pretty physical and literal.

 

[fil3232003]

I'm still waiting for you to explain where you came up with this "revelation". Show me in scripture how clear this is.
Who are the "chosen of G~d"?
Why is "flowing with milk and honey" not literal?

Last time I was in Israel (in Oct.) it was pretty physical and literal.

(Quote) I'm still waiting for you to explain where you came up with this "revelation". Show me in scripture how clear this is. (Quote)


If we really believe that the Sacred Scriptures are the inspired word of God, this is what is written. Let us remember Jesus Christ, showing the Way in winning over the temptations of Satan simply did it by replying, “It is written.” (Read Mat 4:1-10)

It is written, this is how God/Jesus Christ speaks:

• Eze 20:49 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak parables?

• Psa 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

This is confirmed as “it is written.” Take note it is JESUS CHRIST Himself who is supposed to expound on His words!

• Mar 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

To prove that “what is written” is not just fiction, Jesus was heard demonstrating it. Jesus told His listeners:

• “destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

• ” if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out”

• “if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee:”

• “Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.”

Plus many more.


(Quote) Who are the "chosen of G~d"? (Quote)

For God to pursue His plan of having eternal companions after the FALL of man, He made a covenant to Abram making him and His “seeds” to be His CHOSEN people and Him to be their GOD!

• Gen 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

It is clear that “to become God’s chosen” that is SALVATION. It is also clear that there is One True God and one false god. The false god is Satan, “the god of this world.”

• 2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

 

[anisavta]

But where does it say that G~d has forsaken His Chosen People Israel and replaced them with Christians and turned the Land of Israel into a spiritual thing only?