first miracle

[ronny]

genuine question:

does john 2v11 mean that this was jesus' first miracle?
or just his first in that place?
or the first of his public ministry etc etc etc
I mean if he had never preformed a miracle before why is his mum badgering him to preform one?

Thanks for your wisdom in this folks.
please see the verse in a fair few versions bellow


New International Version (©1984)
This, the first of his miraculous signs, Jesus performed at Cana in Galilee. He thus revealed his glory, and his disciples put their faith in him.

New Living Translation (©2007)
This miraculous sign at Cana in Galilee was the first time Jesus revealed his glory. And his disciples believed in him.

English Standard Version (©2001)
This, the first of his signs, Jesus did at Cana in Galilee, and manifested his glory. And his disciples believed in him.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
This beginning of His signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee, and manifested His glory, and His disciples believed in Him.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Jesus performed this first sign in Cana of Galilee. He displayed His glory, and His disciples believed in Him.

International Standard Version (©2012)
Jesus did this, the first of his signs, in Cana of Galilee. He revealed his glory, and his disciples believed in him.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
This first miracle Yeshua did in Qatna of Galilee and he manifested his glory, and his disciples believed in him.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Cana in Galilee was the place where Jesus began to perform miracles. He made his glory public there, and his disciples believed in him.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

American King James Version
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

American Standard Version
This beginning of his signs did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

Douay-Rheims Bible
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee; and manifested his glory, and his disciples believed in him.

Darby Bible Translation
This beginning of signs did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

English Revised Version
This beginning of his signs did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

Webster's Bible Translation
This beginning of miracles Jesus performed in Cana of Galilee, and manifested his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

Weymouth New Testament
This, the first of His miracles, Jesus performed at Cana in Galilee, and thus displayed His glorious power; and His disciples believed in Him.

World English Bible
This beginning of his signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee, and revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.

Young's Literal Translation
This beginning of the signs did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested his glory, and his disciples believed in him;

 

[St_Worm2]

genuine question:

does john 2v11 mean that this was jesus' first miracle?
or just his first in that place?
or the first of his public ministry etc etc etc
I mean if he had never preformed a miracle before why is his mum badgering him to preform one?

Yes, as stated, that was the first miracle He ever performed.

Also, which part of the text leads you to believe that His mother had to be asking Him to perform a miraculous work in this case?

Thanks!

--David
p.s. - BTW, welcome to CF ..

 

[Tigger45]

John 2:4

English Standard Version (ESV)

4 And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.”

Earlier in the chapter it shows the context as in timing of the occurence.

 

[ronny]

Yes of course that is the part of the story i was referring to tigger45, thank you.

Thanks for the welcome David.

still not feeling Ive gotten to the bottom of this. maybe i wont be able to.
I'm definitely not trying to say this wasnt his first, I have always held to that view in fact. But just as I was discussing it with a friend last night and the bit about it being "the first of his signs, Jesus did at Cana in Galilee" (esv) ie the launching of his stuff in this area, the launching of his public ministry, and something to begin revealing his glory manifest to others and his disciples. after all is didnt say his mum began to believe in him at that time but just his disciples. and his mum being so sure he would do something which might be the case if she had seen him do things before.

Can anyone read the original greek and see if it necessarily infers it is his first sign? or is it more loose perhaps as the english translations may seem to be?

I mean could jesus at 12yo- "in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. 47 And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers." esv
be seen as a miracle? something that could not be done unless by through the holy spirit?

Thanks for your help here

 

[Tigger45]

This is how a Greek interlinear worded John 2:11 in the english.

This did beinning of the signs - Jesus in Cana - of Galilee and revealed the glory of Him and believed on Him the disciples of Him.

John 2:4 coupled with 2:11 gives us the timing of His first miracle. Plus think of it this way. If Mary the mother of Jesus wanted Him to perform miracles at an earlier age don't you think she would make Him change His own diapers? :{)

 

[ronny]

ha
like it tigger thanks