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Oh, ok:
He does if you want to be here discussing it.
That's right, those Constants that don't change? They HAVE specific values that we've measured.Why would we want to discuss it? The fundamental constants are quantifiable - that is why they are called constants, and given specific values.
Great! He doesn't need considering then.God is not quantifiable, and therefore there are no probabilities which can be calculated in connection with him.
If he is, then it's perfectly applicable hot air.You are spouting hot air.
That's right, those Constants that don't change? They HAVE specific values that we've measured.
Great! He doesn't need considering then.
If he is, then it's perfectly applicable hot air.
God is a not a physical and is not of the natural world, rules that apply to the natural world are not required of God.Oh, ok:
He does if you want to be here discussing it.
You asked for calculations for how they determine the fine tuning, that is what I gave you.Hey, you're the one who posted two wildly different numbers to answer one of my questions. Not my fault you can't find a consistent answer to support your guesses.
Maybe I've missed something? These Constants don't change. Am I wrong?So, an atheist who is trying to do a creationist's job for them. I suppose you realise that they are quite keen on having the laws of nature change over time, in order to explain away things like radiometric dating?
If he's not quantifiable, then he has no effect on us. If he does, then he Is quantifiable, unless you believe something can come from nothing?In what sense, exactly?
Sure, beneficial as it is.Hot air is hot air.
If he's not quantifiable, then he has no effect on us. If he does, then he Is quantifiable, unless you believe something can come from nothing?
I am not quantifiable, unless you are talking about my height or weight, but I am having an effect right this very second.
and you're quantifiable! I can reason with you, talk to you, things you say give me reason to think, etc.
Is it your honest opinion that you and/or your effects aren't quantifiable? a measurement of a physical quantity isn't the only way to quantify something. Your beliefs guide your decisions your decisions have an effect on the people around you. That's quantifiable.How much does my mind weigh? How many joules are my thoughts? How strong is the gravitational field around my memory?
Is it your honest opinion that you and/or your effects aren't quantifiable? a measurement of a physical quantity isn't the only way to quantify something.
Your beliefs guide your decisions your decisions have an effect on the people around you. That's quantifiable.
Even if you could quantify him, that in no way equates to God.and you're quantifiable! I can reason with you, talk to you, things you say give me reason to think, etc.
It isn't? Apart from statistics I can't think of any application of mathematics which doesn't involve physical measurements.
So? You still haven't told me how you are going to put a numerical value on them.
Even if you could quantify him, that in no way equates to God.
Without it, the story falls apart.
Well, the fine tuning of God is the subject of the OP.Why would we want to discuss it? The fundamental constants are quantifiable - that is why they are called constants, and given specific values.
God is not quantifiable, and therefore there are no probabilities which can be calculated in connection with him.
You are spouting hot air.
Well, the fine tuning of God is the subject of the OP.
Out of curiosity, what makes God unquantifiable? I mean, we can count the number of gods, right? That's a quantity.
Beyond our current ability to measure is very different than unquantifiable. We quantified all manner of things in science before having the technological ability to measure it directly.What kind of measuring device did you have in mind? A pair of scales? A micrometer? A volt meter? A God meter perhaps?
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