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You would need to demonstrate that these fields can actually influence us in the way that he says. So far, there is less than 0 evidence that it can. The EM fields needed to influence brain processes are way higher than the ones measured to occur naturally.
So now you are moving the goalposts from one probability being larger than the other to the probability of a "macroscopic intelligence" being irrelevant, because if (and that's a big if given the evidence) the universe is eternal, it will already have happened regardless of the probability. If that was what you meant, just fess up and state it outright.
The God helmet experiments demonstrate that EM fields *can* influence human thought. I don't know how 'God' might manipulate the EM fields of spacetime however. Since "God' would technically be 'in' every atom, it could happen *inside* the brain for all I know! You're asking for more than anyone could give you without *actively experimenting in the lab*.
The laws of physics *insist* that energy cannot be created or destroyed, and you have zero evidence that there was ever a time when physical matter did not exist. Even Alfven proposed a 'bang' theory that doesn't require or predict all mass to have ever been concentrated to a "point'. Even if the universe is expanding, there is no guarantee that all mass energy was ever collected into one tiny region of spacetime. Even that claim is outrageous.
And we are back to your inability to distinguish between empirical and subjective evidence.
At levels much higher than occurring naturally. I did not state that EM fields cannot influence human thought. I stated that there is no evidence that they can at levels measured to occur naturally. Please respond to the claims I actually make, not the ones you dream up in your head.
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And here we can end the discussion. Because if we are now not just attributing spiritual experiences to "God", but also music, the concept has just become completely meaningless.
You can verify that "Yep, those photons are redshifted alright". That's all you can verify with a telescope.
Likewise I can't get a single astronomer to tell me where dark energy comes from so I can 'verify' their claims. I can't get them to tell me where to find any inflation or how to control it to see if has some effect on a photon. I can't verify that these things even exist in nature, let alone that they have some effect on a photon. All I have are the "testimonies" of a handful of old guys that think they see invisible stuff in the sky!
Technically speaking, it's entirely possible for a living organism to control it's physical "self" down to a specific atom, which in this case could be *inside* my physical form for all I know. Already you've made an *assumption* that might not even be correct to begin with.
Jesus tends to transcend human cultures today. He has followers all over the planet, located in nearly every "culture" of the world. Why?
I actually think it's dubious that you're requiring the EM field "communication process" to be created/initiated on the outside of the skull rather than resonating itself through atoms on the *inside*. Wireless communication has been a part of our technologies for a long time now.
