Find me The Transitional form.

[Old Ned]

Since this seems to be one of the most frustrating debate points from Evolution point of view, I would like to pose a question.

Just sitting here watching a video, I had an idea.

Ok, so Creationists often claim Evolution is not true due to a lack of Transitional forms.

This point is often argued that every individual life form IS a transitional form.

The argument goes round and round.

So here's my question.

From this...

To This...

Here is a step by step link of the building of the At-At

I would like someone to point out the transitional point between the start point and the finish point, that clearly demonstrates a mid-point in the same way as something such as the Crocoduck.

This step must clearly show a half and half image, an image you could show someone and they would instantly know "Oh it's clearly the half way point between a lego block and the At-At."

If you can clearly demonstrate it then obviously Evolution is wrong. (given that if there were a transitional form as Creationists claim, then Evolution would be wrong)

If you cannot find it then shut up about Transitional Forms.

Ready.... GO!

 

[Old Ned]

Didn't think so.

 

[Jro]

Isn't Archaeopteryx essentially a Crocoduck?

 

[Old Ned]

Isn't Archaeopteryx essentially a Crocoduck?

To you and I , yes.

To creationists... no.
Funny, I watched the debate that launched the Crocoduck again yesterday, I think it's hilarious the very first words in response to the first presentation of the Crocoduck... "Ohh my god... what a numb nut"

 

[Jro]

To you and I , yes.

To creationists... no.
Funny, I watched the debate that launched the Crocoduck again yesterday, I think it's hilarious the very first words in response to the first presentation of the Crocoduck... "Ohh my god... what a numb nut"

I love the crocoduck. It's like a little chibi Archaeopteryx.

 

[Old Ned]

I love Ray and the Boy Wonder... They are like the cutest Creationist Duo, they make such a nice couple and you just want to pet them on the head cos you feel so sorry for them, like a kitten stuck in a hole.
And they say the funniest things.

I watch that debate frequently, it's my favorite

 

[AV1611VET]

I would like someone to point out the transitional point between the start point and the finish point, that clearly demonstrates a mid-point in the same way as something such as the Crocoduck.

What are you talking about, Ned?

It looks like you want the midway point between the start and finish of the same thing.

Are you comparing missing links, which are between two completed and separate entities, to a midway point between the same thing?

The missing link logic says you can't daisy-chain T. Rex to a Robin, not Baby Rex to Adult Rex.

 

[Old Ned]

What are you talking about, Ned?

It looks like you want the midway point between the start and finish of the same thing.

Are you comparing missing links, which are between two completed and separate entities, to a midway point between the same thing?

The missing link logic says you can't daisy-chain T. Rex to a Robin, not Baby Rex to Adult Rex.

It's simple Av, the At-At is the finished product, it starts with 1 piece of lego.
The piece of lego exists on it's own as a single entity.
Add pieces to it in the correct order and places and you end up with the At-At.

Lego piece - At-At, 2 completely different things.
Single Cell - Human Being.

Just like Evolution, T-Rex to bird is the same thing, add the correct things to a T-Rex and it changes to a Bird. But at no point is it a T-Rex with a Chickens head.
Add the correct things to a single piece of lego and it changes to the At-At.

Not sure what you are not understanding.

The lego analogy is fine and works well in the transitional sense.
So answer the question... Or don't.

 

[PsychoSarah]

To you and I , yes.

To creationists... no.
Funny, I watched the debate that launched the Crocoduck again yesterday, I think it's hilarious the very first words in response to the first presentation of the Crocoduck... "Ohh my god... what a numb nut"

The crocoduck is extremely stupid, especially considering that birds are the decendants of dinosaurs, and crocodiles existed before dinosaurs. Therefore, the intermediate would never have crocodile and duck traits, much less the ridiculous mismatch that is the crocoduck.

 

[AV1611VET]

So answer the question... Or don't.

I'm still confused.

Your AT is one fossil.

If we abort the procedure anywhere along the way, the completed AT won't exist.

If dinosaurs never would have existed, Robins still would have.

Same for apes.

In fact, if no plant or animal of any kind had been created in Genesis 1, Adam & Eve could still have been created -- and were.

I like the analogy Ken Ham used in his debate.

This is about evolution's Tree of Life vs. Christianity's Grove of Trees.

 

[AV1611VET]

The crocoduck is extremely stupid, especially considering that birds are the decendants of dinosaurs, and crocodiles existed before dinosaurs. Therefore, the intermediate would never have crocodile and duck traits, much less the ridiculous mismatch that is the crocoduck.

Adam & Eve were incipients.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I'm still confused.

Your AT is one fossil.

If we abort the procedure anywhere along the way, the completed AT won't exist.

If dinosaurs never would have existed, Robins still would have.

Same for apes.

In fact, if no plant or animal of any kind had been created in Genesis 1, Adam & Eve could still have been created -- and were.

I like the analogy Ken Ham used in his debate.

This is about evolution's Tree of Life vs. Christianity's Grove of Trees.

Not in evolution, or Legos.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Adam & Eve were incipients.

No, they weren't. In any case, 2 people alone, even if you are going to argue that somehow they had perfect DNA, still wouldn't be capable of establishing a stable population.

 

[Old Ned]

I'm still confused.

Your AT is one fossil.

If we abort the procedure anywhere along the way, the completed AT won't exist.

If dinosaurs never would have existed, Robins still would have.

Same for apes.

In fact, if no plant or animal of any kind had been created in Genesis 1, Adam & Eve could still have been created -- and were.

I like the analogy Ken Ham used in his debate.

This is about evolution's Tree of Life vs. Christianity's Grove of Trees.

You are just outright denying Evolution here so as to avoid the question.

The lego example works the same as the colour wheel.

My fav quote "How can you not, walk a mile one step at a time?"
Brian Sapient

 

[AV1611VET]

My fav quote "How can you not, walk a mile one step at a time?"

When you, run it?

 

[Old Ned]

When you, run it?

Oh you're hilarious

Although it asks how you can walk a mile any other way than 1 step at a time.
It doesn't ask Run, but the same point applies.

 

[Sayre]

Ned! Please provide a link to the crocaduck video, because I've never seen it.

And the star wars lego analogy is darn brilliant.

 

[Nithavela]

Easy. There is no transitional form, so that is evidence for a creator (in this case the guy who designed the lego set)

 

[Old Ned]

Ned! Please provide a link to the crocaduck video, because I've never seen it.

And the star wars lego analogy is darn brilliant.

Thank you

RRS vs. Kirk Cameron / Ray Comfort Nightline FULL - YouTube

Thats the full debate, the moment you are looking for starts at 55 minutes in

Brian Sapiens face and reaction are priceless

 

[Sayre]

Thank you

RRS vs. Kirk Cameron / Ray Comfort Nightline FULL - YouTube

Thats the full debate, the moment you are looking for starts at 55 minutes in

Brian Sapiens face and reaction are priceless

Thank you Ned, thank you.



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