Fight Foca

[spinningtutu]

Hi. First off, I want to apologize if my post ends up being a repeat post and/or something people already know about/ have participated in. If so, apology offered...

In any case, I thought that this was important enough to share. Now that the political climate has shifted so drastically, the possibility that FOCA will become law has greatly increased. There is a petition against FOCA, which can be found here:

www.fightfoca.com

I just signed it and I feel a little better with myself (even though I remain overly depressed in regards to the future of the unborn). There may not be much that can be done, but I think taking some sort of stand at least means something...

(for those who don't know, FOCA, if/when passed will basically eliminate any and all small steps of progress that have been made regarding abortion during the Reagan and Bush administrations).

 

[desmalia]

Thanks for the link, Paxi!

I see you removed the top picture from your siggy (the abortion one). While I appreciate what you were saying with it, I'm glad you took it off as it was quite violent.

Not that I'm sure it matters, but I am also offended by the lesbian one that you posted. Personally I'd really appreciate it if you took it off too.

 

[CruciFixed]

Can tis actually help? I am very concerned that taxpayers will have to pay for this.....I am also concerned that faith based hospitals or people with morals will be forced to commit this heinous act.

 

[Secundulus]

Can tis actually help? I am very concerned that taxpayers will have to pay for this.....I am also concerned that faith based hospitals or people with morals will be forced to commit this heinous act.

The Catholic Bishops have publically stated that if FOCA passes and Catholic hospitals are forced to perform abortions, then the Church will close all Catholic hospitals in the USA. They will close them, but will not sell them. This will eliminate approximately 30% of our health care system overnight.

 

[CruciFixed]

That's horrible. Not the catholics I think they are taking a stand for what they believe its horrible that its come to this. Satan is at work here. I think I'll be vomiting if the act passes. Just the thought of abortion makes my stomach churn.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I'd like a source on the claims on the site. Those are quite the claims, and if I can be sure that it is true I will help fight it.

 

[CruciFixed]

I've heard these claims also made on WCRF (moody radio) when they are doing their news talk show but I can't bring them up. I forgot about this until Paxi posted it but it would be nice to see something other than a petition page's claims like the actual written act.

But here's what wikipedia says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Choice_Act
Not everyone thinks wikipedia is a very accurate source for information so I will go further
http://www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/FOCA/FOCA_FactSheet08.pdf

I can't find the actual bill though. I don't know where to find it.

 

[CruciFixed]

Oh here's something
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.1173:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1964:

 

[Secundulus]

I'd like a source on the claims on the site. Those are quite the claims, and if I can be sure that it is true I will help fight it.

Catholic bishops plan to forcefully confront Obama

 

[desmalia]

The Catholic Bishops have publically stated that if FOCA passes and Catholic hospitals are forced to perform abortions, then the Church will close all Catholic hospitals in the USA. They will close them, but will not sell them. This will eliminate approximately 30% of our health care system overnight.

Wow, good for them. I imagine the SDA hospitals and others like it will follow suit. They need to get the word out to the public so that people know what they're giving up if the want this act to go ahead. Might make them think twice.

 

[CruciFixed]

I put this petition on another place I go to that has Christian support section. It got attention there too. Thank you!

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I admire their stand, but two wrongs don't make a right, but can the government really force that on the hospitals?

 

[Secundulus]

I admire their stand, but two wrongs don't make a right, but can the government really force that on the hospitals?

At the very least, they will threaten to withold federal funding. If that happens, the hospital has a choice of performing abortions or closing.

I don't think they have the financial ability to stay open without the federal funding.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

An ultimatum then. We need to pray about this.