Fidel Castro

[CCGirl]

Jesus is communist.

 

[Pentecostal Boy]

actually jesus isn't communist there is a verse in the bible that proves it but that's not the issue lol. Cause once I get started on that I litterally NEVER shut up.

 

[stray bullet]

Facts on Cuban democracy

What International Sources? What about answering the questions?

What questions? Facts on Cuban democracy? No one is denying they hold elections, but the elections are totally meaningless. They don't have system of checks and balances. They have a system where Castro and the communist party has absolute power and can not be removed or vetoed. That's a dictatorship. The Cuban parliament holds no real power or authority in the country.

Every country is free to do as they wish with their monetary policy! Cubans can own US $, they just can not go down to the local store and buy groceries with it!

No, it is illegal for Cubans to use US money like that. They had to put an end to it because there was such a strong demand for real money it hurt the communist propaganda.

 

[stray bullet]

With no small amount of reluctance, I will have to agree with CCGirl. The US is indeed an imperial power, and has been for the better part of the 20th century on into the 21st. With military personnel present in over 130 different countries around the globe(for whatever reason) how can one possibly deny that the US is not?

Are the countries forced to host those forces? No.

 

[stray bullet]

Nowhere has a state "withered away" .

Nowhere does the state (people) own all means of production.

The first stage of communism is Democracy, allowing socialistic principles to succeed, then comes communism!

Communism is by definition, out to conquer.

Yes, I know about the various goals of communism. It is a contradiction to call a state communist because communism can only exist when there are not outside powers.

... which is why Cuba helped spread communism by helping to invade countries and overthrow democratically elected leaders, such as in Grenada.

 

[ACougar]

Cuba is controlled by an absolute communist party, which makes them a 'communist country' according to global media. It's rather interesting that when I say something, which totally complies with the facts available from international sources, you simply refer to it as 'US propaganda'. You can call it that all you want, despite the fact that the US, unlike Cuba, has no domestic media.

What CCGirl is saying is that thier goal may be communism, however they have yet to reach a stage where the government can completely disolve.

They do not have democracy, they have pseudo-democracy which consists of voting for people who have no power. Their parliament is only a rubber stamp for Castro and the Communist party, which are the absolute power of Cuba. They can not be removed, contradicted or vetoed by their people. That is a dictatorship.

You don't need to be a member of the communist party to be elected to public office, just like you don't need to be a Democrate or a Republican to be voted into office here in this country. Look at it this way in Germany something like 5 political parties share power, in the U.S. 2 political parties share power, in Cuba there is only one recognized political party.

Finally, Canadian currency is not banned in the US. I'm free to obtain, collect and even trade it for goods and services. Cuba actually banned the ownership of American money. Americans are free to use Canadian money, but they prefer to use a stronger currency, just like the Cubans.

Cuba has done a lot of questionable things in an attempt to limmit the power and influence of the worlds greatest superpower which wants it's government overthrown. I really don't see how thier any worse than China which is one of our best buddies now.

 

[Selznak]

Are the countries forced to host those forces? No.

Some of them aren't, some have little choice.

 

[stray bullet]

What CCGirl is saying is that thier goal may be communism, however they have yet to reach a stage where the government can completely disolve.

I'd agree.

You don't need to be a member of the communist party to be elected to public office, just like you don't need to be a Democrate or a Republican to be voted into office here in this country. Look at it this way in Germany something like 5 political parties share power, in the U.S. 2 political parties share power, in Cuba there is only one recognized political party.

I've never argued otherwise. It is not always easy to get into the communist party. Whether or not one is a communist has nothing to do with the fact that Parliament has no real power- and this fact is never disputed.
It's always about how Cuba has 'elections' and you don't havta be a member of the Communist party... well, that means nothing. The people, unlike in the US, have no choice in their leadership, laws or government. Castro is an absolute dictator.

 

[stray bullet]

Some of them aren't, some have little choice.

Such as?

 

[CCGirl]

I've never argued otherwise. It is not always easy to get into the communist party. Whether or not one is a communist has nothing to do with the fact that Parliament has no real power- and this fact is never disputed.
It's always about how Cuba has 'elections' and you don't havta be a member of the Communist party... well, that means nothing. The people, unlike in the US, have no choice in their leadership, laws or government. Castro is an absolute dictator.

None of this has ANY factual basis! Read the link...no dictatorship!

Post some proof.

 

[ACougar]

I'd agree.




I've never argued otherwise. It is not always easy to get into the communist party. Whether or not one is a communist has nothing to do with the fact that Parliament has no real power- and this fact is never disputed.
It's always about how Cuba has 'elections' and you don't havta be a member of the Communist party... well, that means nothing. The people, unlike in the US, have no choice in their leadership, laws or government. Castro is an absolute dictator.

He weilds a lot of power, however at the same time he is George Washington, Ben Franklin and John Adams all rolled up into one for the Cuban people.

 

[stray bullet]

None of this has ANY factual basis! Read the link...no dictatorship!

Post some proof.

CCGirl, there is no system of checks and balances in the state. There are no elections for President, at all. There are no vetoes of Presidental decisions, at all.

That's a dictatorship. He holds all the power and can't be removed.

 

[stray bullet]

He weilds a lot of power, however at the same time he is George Washington, Ben Franklin and John Adams all rolled up into one for the Cuban people.

Except all those people were elected, vetoed and subject to a system of checks and balances.

 

[stray bullet]

Anyone want to tell me when, in the last 50 years, Parliament vetoed Castro?

When was the last election held for President?

Anyone?

 

[CCGirl]

CCGirl, there is no system of checks and balances in the state. There are no elections for President, at all. There are no vetoes of Presidental decisions, at all.

That's a dictatorship. He holds all the power and can't be removed.

Many countries do not elect their PM's or Presidents. Canada, UK, etc. do not elect their PM'S, they are elected the same way as Castro! They win a seat in their constituency, thereby becoming PM, after the party has chosen him!

Not too sure what you mean by checks and balances, but I assume it something in the US, not everywhere else!

There are no vetoes here either!

Do you think Canada and the UK are dictatorships?

 

[CCGirl]

Anyone want to tell me when, in the last 50 years, Parliament vetoed Castro?

When was the last election held for President?

Anyone?

They probably dont have a veto....like here!

(This is all in the links provided, BTW)

Parliament elects the President, after he wins in his constituency!

 

[CCGirl]

Except all those people were elected, vetoed and subject to a system of checks and balances.

Yes, because they were in the US, subject to their style of Democracy!

 

[stray bullet]

Many countries do not elect their PM's or Presidents. Canada, UK, etc. do not elect their PM'S, they are elected the same way as Castro! They win a seat in their constituency, thereby becoming PM, after the party has chosen him!

Not too sure what you mean by checks and balances, but I assume it something in the US, not everywhere else!

There are no vetoes here either!

Do you think Canada and the UK are dictatorships?

The people of Canada and the UK are free to choose their government, from right to left.

The world works off a system of checks and balances between the president/PM, the Congress/Parliament and the judges.

Castro is the President and all his decisions can not be vetoed, that is, turned down, by Parliament. Castro can not be removed by Parliament.

Anything else?

 

[Pentecostal Boy]

there is no way that they would not pick Castro

 

[ACougar]

Anyone want to tell me when, in the last 50 years, Parliament vetoed Castro?

When was the last election held for President?

Anyone?

This from the CIA Factbook:

elections: president and vice presidents elected by the National Assembly for a term of five years; election last held 6 March 2003 (next to be held in 2008)
election results: Fidel CASTRO Ruz reelected president; percent of legislative vote - 100%; Raul CASTRO Ruz elected vice president; percent of legislative vote - 100%