FFVII vs. FFVIII characters

[Los]

You do realize that Lionheart is an Omnislash rip.

 

[jakl721]

Not right. The difference between Omnislash and Lionheart is obviously in the weapon and less obvious in the style. Cloud does more hits in a short period of time, while Squall does less hits but deeper cuts. In conclusion, Cloud goes for quantity while Squall goes for quality.

 

[Gear853]

Sephiroth

sephiroth is such a whiny mama boy tho!

 

[Spiffyness]

True, and if you were paying attention, he never really DID anything for half the game (up until the Northern Crater, it's just Jenova in disguise, remember?). By that logic, Sepheroth didn't even kill Aerith, I suppose! He was a good villain, but not as cool as Kefka.

Honestly, I think all the FF games are a bit weak, villain-wise. Even Kefka, while being pretty awesome, pales in comparison with the likes of Luca Blight (Suikoden II), Albedo (Xenosaga), The Patriots (Metal Gear Solid 2), and the whole entourage of villains from Xenogears. Of course, that's just my personal opinion, but I hope the next FF game has a villain that's really really really... villainy.

 

[Athene]

KEFKA pwns every FF character. But between 7 and 8... I'd have to say that FFVII definately would win. And that's not just because I like them more, either. Then again, if Squall and co. were to just spam their GFs forever like you do in the game... yeah, FF8's characters would win if they could use summons. Otherwise, they'd totally get pwned.

But in FFVII you can equip Knights of the Round Table Materia to one of your characters and equip the others with mimic, plus you had that phoenix materia that would revive all your characters to full health if they were all K'Od

 

[Spiffyness]

Touche, but if Squall & co. got the first turn they'd wipe the floor by spamming GFs, OR they'd use triple and cast some sort of protective spell thing (I don't remember what spells the game had). I suppose it just matters who got in the first attack, because either side would kill the other in one hit.

Then again, realistically speaking, Knights of the Round takes SOOOOOOOO long to actually happen that the FFVIII cast could get a few shots in during the FMV sequence .

 

[Chrome]

pretty much a bunch of teenagers won't have the mental capacity to oust the too diverse group of VII

 

[jakl721]

*All bow down and worship Yam Kimil and Final Fantasy all knowing knowledge stuff.*

 

[ravendta]

Ultros would win all.

Don't tease the octopus, kids!




(The preceding post was laced with sarcasm and should not have been taken seriously by anyone... Except maybe Mr. Chupon.)

 

[* kittie *]

In my opinion Final Fantasy VI's characters are better than either FF7 or FF8, but if I must choose from the two games I'd go with FF8. FF8 might have had flawed gameplay, but I still liked it for the story and characters.

The good ol' days of FF VI.

 

[Chrome]

seriously, the characters from final fantasy 7 were far more experienced and 'battle hardened' than those from 8. Even from the beginning of either game, this is evident, Cloud is an ex-soldier, barret and tifa already in a rebel group, Red 13 already a 'guardian' of his people, yadda yadda.

as for the characters from 8, they are trained hardcore mercenaries, but thats it, trained. If i've learned anything from the military, is that training = squat to how things really are in combat.

 

[jakl721]

Good point, and I'm guessing that's why Cloud got beaten badly by Sepiroth so many times. Even in Advent Children he was constantly getting beaten.

Squall on the other hand could have easily taken out Sepiroth without once loosing his cool.

 

[MarkEvan]

seriously, the characters from final fantasy 7 were far more experienced and 'battle hardened' than those from 8. Even from the beginning of either game, this is evident, Cloud is an ex-soldier, barret and tifa already in a rebel group, Red 13 already a 'guardian' of his people, yadda yadda.

as for the characters from 8, they are trained hardcore mercenaries, but thats it, trained. If i've learned anything from the military, is that training = squat to how things really are in combat.

Hmm.......although I agree that Cloud and co would beat Squall and co, I have to disagree with your assesment, first Cloud wasn`t really ex-soldier we find that out when Cloud finally gets a hold of his memory, Barret and Tifa well if you remember Biggs (I think) asks the question of whether there was anyone from soldier there when they took out mako reactor 1, Cloud said that if there was then they would all have been dead, that and the fact that, that was their first real job, says IMO that they wern`t all that battle hardened. And finally Red 13, well I guess he was a protector of cosmo canyon but he had no idea that the real hero of that story was his father, not that that has any effect on how he fights but hey .

Having said all that I agree with your assesment of Squall etc, I think all in all at thhe end of the day it would actually be pretty even and only really comes down to who you prefer, hence I chose seven over eight.

Mark

 

[joelkaziro]

Mark Evan poses a good point...but let's take a look at the characters from 7 and 8 and find out who would've taken out who (talking about the main party).

Final Fantasy 7

Cloud - obviously is main adversary would've been Squall so let's see, Cloud has the bigger sword. I'd counter that with the fact that Squall is clearly more agile and battle ready with his over-elaborate limit breaks. Now, Omnislash vs. Lion Heart - I can't make a decision on that one.

Verdict - Complete Stalemate. To make a decision between the two would lie with which character you like more. Personally, Squall was more of a real character for me so my allegiance lies with him.

Which game is better? FF7 or FF8....the story of liberation vs. the love story....I can't decide.

Find out in my next post for Zell vs. Barrett

God Bless The Gamerz

 

[jakl721]

Zell vs. Barrett? I thought that would be painfully obvious.

 

[joelkaziro]

Zell vs. Barrett? I thought that would be painfully obvious.

You'd think so wouldn't you. You'd think yeah...Barrett anytime. One quick catastrophe would take anyone out simple as. But you forget, Barrett is slow and in the game, it takes a while for him to become a really prominently powerful character. With Zell, you have great speed so his turn comes around alot quicker meaning that you can do more damage in a shorter space of time. So let's see:

Zell - attributes: Great Hair, awful dress sense and unbelievably obnoxious, which is excellently portrayed by Squall's reactions to everything Zell says in the beginning at Balamb Garden.

However, definately a powerful character when you first get him and it doesn't take to long for him to become a preferred member of the starting three. Quick and powerful attack, everything you'd want in a power player. Doesn't need magic - that's not what he's there for. Put Ifrit on him and POW...

BUT, he falls down, and this is very obvious at the beginning, with his limit break. Because it takes ages to get all the good Fighters magazines with the best limits - Zell's elite strength seems to be somewhat wasted towards the beginning of the game when all you have is a quick flurry of punches.

Overall, a good character that combined with Squall and a magician/healer would make a vicious trio.

Barrett - attributes: AWESOME Gun Hand, wicked 'I'm a black man so stay out of my way' persona with the eloquence of a 9 year old to boot. Does have a soft side though, and it's embodied in his daughter Marlene

To me, Barrett was the only reason why I was able to complete FF7 because Barrett becomes unbelievably powerful once you begin to acquire the final limits, the final weapons and the awesome Summons and magics. But WHOA does it take long to get there...

Okay so he's basically with Cloud from the start. My problem with Barrett is that in the beginning, you have to cultivate him, use him alot and pay conscious attention to bringing up his stats in order for him to be a useful asset for the party from the start. His attack is good, a little modest for his stature but he falls down with rubbish magic and awful speed so you'll be waiting around for ages in a battle for just an OK attack.

When you get to around the end of disc one, you should be starting to view the beginnings of a Barrett that was made to end wars. He starts to pick up once you wean him off magic and start getting his unbelivable limit breaks, weapons and such. His final limit break, Catastrophe may well be the only one that can rival omnislash. Definately coming to be seen - for a biblical text please refer to Genesis 14 - 16 for the demise of Sodom and Gomorrah for something of an example

 

[joelkaziro]

My overall verdict: Barrett - Zell is a good character but should you be willing to battle around a bit more and go weapon/limit break hunting, Barrett will prove indespensible. Well and truly a beast that is worthy of the incredible build that he holds.

Find out next time for Joel's Best Female from 7 or 8. In the running are: Tifa, Aeris, Yuffie, Rinoa, Selphie and Quistis.

 

[jakl721]

Tifa, hands down.

 

[Touma]

I love both games equally, so its hard to choose! I say VIII, only because Cloud has that whole self esteem problem . Squall could care less, he'll fight any ways.

 

[Frontline Soldier]

I prefer to play ff8 even though it's story line was stupid, just because even though it's story line was stupid in a sense, it still was better than ff7's story line and the characters were more real to me and their sense of emotions came out more.