Feminism

[DD2008]

Personally, I have no man that does any of that for me. I do it all myself. Interestingly enough, it was my mother that stepped up and taught me all of those things, not my dad.

That's the problem with this generation, too many kids raised by just their mothers.

Bobby Bowden ex coach of Flordia State was asked what main difference has he seen in football over the last 30 years and he said that he has a whole lot of young kids on his team raised by just their mothers.

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

Women aren't obsolete or victorian. They're just women. They're attractive to men because they're different.

Women all over the world are obsolete. Why else is the plight of widows in other countries so dire? It's because they were taught to be 100% dependant on men, and never shown how to support themselves or their families. In fact in some countries a woman who tries to support herself faces death.
In the Victorian era women were expected to be quiet, cater to their families, and be wane and fragile.

 

[DD2008]

Women all over the world are obsolete. Why else is the plight of widows in other countries so dire? It's because they were taught to be 100% dependant on men, and never shown how to support themselves or their families. In fact in some countries a woman who tries to support herself faces death.
In the Victorian era women were expected to be quiet, cater to their families, and be wane and fragile.

I don't think women are obsolete. I'm quite fond of them really.

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

I don't think women are obsolete. I'm quite fond of them really.

Unfortunately not the entire populace of men are as fond of women as you are. I consider myself a feminist, but I also need a guy in my life.

 

[leothelioness]

That's the problem with this generation, too many kids raised by just their mothers.

Bobby Bowden ex coach of Flordia State was asked what main difference has he seen in football over the last 30 years and he said that he has a whole lot of young kids on his team raised by just their mothers.

And that's bad how??

FYI, I was raised by my dad. It's just that he wasn't willing to teach me all the things I needed to know, so my mother did that.

 

[DD2008]

And that's bad how??

FYI, I was raised by my dad. It's just that he wasn't willing to teach me all the things I needed to know, so my mother did that.

What things did you need to know?

 

[DD2008]

Thank God for making women

 

[leothelioness]

What things did you need to know?

For instance, when kids learn how to drive it's usually dad who shows them how to check the oil, change a tire, etc.

And you never answered my question about what's so bad about children being raised by their mothers. Who's fault is it that men aren't stepping up and taking parental responsibilities?

 

[DD2008]

For instance, when kids learn how to drive it's usually dad who shows them how to check the oil, change a tire, etc.

Yes usually.

And you never answered my question about what's so bad about children being raised by their mothers. Who's fault is it that men aren't stepping up and taking parental responsibilities?

What is bad about it is it is a sign that our society has lost focus on the family.

Who is at fault is a culture of selfishness that has abandoned their roles within the family unit in order to chase selfish desires. this is true of both men and women, people seperate easily anymore for a plethora of reasons without consideration for the kids. Most states are tilted to give custody to mothers. The collapse of teh family is a work of the devil with hedonistic people more than willing to jump on board the wagon.

 

[Avniel]

I think the biggest problem in families is single mother's giving their married daughter advice thats like asking Mike Vick to train a family dog....why would you take advice from someone that failed. I feel sorry for my father, it's sad the amount of work he does and the lack of respect he get's from my mother and her mother. I mean he has made some bad choices because he's not the man of the house. random but relevant

 

[leothelioness]

I think the biggest problem in families is single mother's giving their married daughter advice thats like asking Mike Vick to train a family dog....why would you take advice from someone that failed. I feel sorry for my father, it's sad the amount of work he does and the lack of respect he get's from my mother and her mother. I mean he has made some bad choices because he's not the man of the house. random but relevant

I think it's a bit (okay, more than a bit) presumptuous to assume that a woman is a single mother because she "failed". You don't know their circumstances. What if she's a widow? Has she failed because her husband has died? What if she had an abusive spouse that she had no choice but to leave? Has she failed because her husband was an abusive cad?

Men need to stop judging women until they've walked in our shoes.

 

[DD2008]

Men need to stop judging women until they've walked in our shoes.

I'm afraid I might break a heel and have to buy you a new pair...

 

[leothelioness]

Your attempt at humor failed miserably, hon.

 

[DD2008]

Your attempt at humor failed miserably, hon.

It gave me a chuckle, ....darlin.

 

[leothelioness]

Okay, but I have to warn you that they're five inch heels. You sure you can walk in those?

 

[DD2008]

Okay, but I have to warn you that they're five inch heels. You sure you can walk in those?

I can do even better...

 

[leothelioness]

Lol

 

[Avniel]

I think it's a bit (okay, more than a bit) presumptuous to assume that a woman is a single mother because she "failed". You don't know their circumstances. What if she's a widow? Has she failed because her husband has died? What if she had an abusive spouse that she had no choice but to leave? Has she failed because her husband was an abusive cad?

Men need to stop judging women until they've walked in our shoes.

I mean let's be real a widow??? Are you serious or joking...I'm not trying to be rude but use common sense. You are aware of what I'm talking about, I don't have to be specific on anything. If you can't understand my statment then that's an issue.

However to be kind I will explain myself. There are women who are single mother's that have no idea who the father is, there are single mother's that the father wants nothing to do with the child due to the mother, there are women so argumentative that no man wants to get near them...

As far as abused women there is no reason a man should lay his hands on a woman and vice versa(a woman hitting a man is just as bad) however my grandma's husband beat her on numerous accations. Growing I couldn't understand why on earth a man would do that. As I got older I came to the realization that my grandma is a vindictive, mean, rude, selfrightous woman that's own son can't stomach. Now am I saying he was right no, but what I am saying is did she have something to do with......well.....

I'm saying all this to say if there are 2 people in a marriage and it fails there are two people that are responsible. Therefore yeah every marriage that fails a woman is responsible(so is the man). The only reason according to scripture for divorce is cheating by the way.

Also death isn't failing...if the spose was saved its actually something to celerbrate for.

 

[leothelioness]

I mean let's be real a widow??? Are you serious or joking...I'm not trying to be rude but use common sense. You are aware of what I'm talking about, I don't have to be specific on anything. If you can't understand my statment then that's an issue.

However to be kind I will explain myself. There are women who are single mother's that have no idea who the father is, there are single mother's that the father wants nothing to do with the child due to the mother, there are women so argumentative that no man wants to get near them...

As far as abused women there is no reason a man should lay his hands on a woman and vice versa(a woman hitting a man is just as bad) however my grandma's husband beat her on numerous accations. Growing I couldn't understand why on earth a man would do that. As I got older I came to the realization that my grandma is a vindictive, mean, rude, selfrightous woman that's own son can't stomach. Now am I saying he was right no, but what I am saying is did she have something to do with......well.....

I'm saying all this to say if there are 2 people in a marriage and it fails there are two people that are responsible. Therefore yeah every marriage that fails a woman is responsible(so is the man). The only reason according to scripture for divorce is cheating by the way.

Also death isn't failing...if the spose was saved its actually something to celerbrate for.

Uh, yeah, a widow. The point I was making (which was apparently lost on you) is that you can't say WHY a woman is a single mother. Like I said, it could be due to one's husband dying, cheating and leaving, it could be anything. To assume a woman is a single mother because she can't keep her legs together, well, you're not God. That's all I can say.


ETA: And of course the other thing I gathered from your post, it's always the woman's fault. Not one thing you said lays the responsibility on the man. It's because of beliefs like yours that I no longer associate myself with fundamentalist bull.

 

[jdaniel]

Don't start whining about your heels that you CHOOSE to wear.... Basically, men and women were meant to be different. They should not at all times be treated the same. There are times and situations when they are equal, and there are times and situations when they aren't. Both sexes tend to have certain positive qualities that the other may lack. Of course women should be given equal pay for equal work and that kind of thing. Of course women should always be treated with respect. By the way, concerning the matter about holding doors open for women, most women seem to appreciate it, so please don't be offended when a man does this; he's not trying to lord himself over you or exercise his "superiority." To be honest, every once in a while, I hold open a door open for another guy... at least behind me.... But anyway, as for roles in marriage: Genesis 3: 16 - "To the woman he [God] said, "... Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." This was before the Law. This was a result of the Fall. It is how things are, for the time being, supposed to be. This is echoed in Ephesians 5:22-27 - "22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless." I am not some power-hungry man who wants to say, "Haha, see, woman! You're under my heel!" Certainly not, I'm simply stating what Scripture says. I hope that one day when I am married, I can live up to and fulfill the words, "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church..."