Feminism

[DD2008]

The differences are biological, which is sex organs but also hormones. I see you hinting at societal constructs of what is a man or what is a woman, which are created by nurture, not nature.

So you don't believe women are different biologically, chemically, and emotionally from men?

 

[lux et lex]

So you don't believe women are different biologically, chemically, and emotionally from men?

Can you not read? I said they are different biologically and hormonally (which is chemically). The emotional differences are social constructs.

 

[lux et lex]

So you disagree that men and women were created differently designed to do different things, and even think differently?

I can't answer this question without further information. What do you mean by different things and thinking differently?

 

[ittarter]

Feminism is for the most part a good thing, but the radical man-haters need to be divorced from the movement. The only kind of feminism I don't like is the hypocritical kind: the version where women still expect to be treated like dainty little flowers and having doors opened and chairs pulled out, but then getting mad when a man verbalizes anything about sexual dimorphism.

That and Girls Gone Wild.

 

[DD2008]

Can you not read? I said they are different biologically and hormonally (which is chemically). The emotional differences are social constructs.

Biological and chemical differences effect emotions. That is why anti depressants work. They repair chemical imbalances. So women have a different emotional makeup than men naturally and scientifically.

As we can see by the quoted outburst.

 

[lux et lex]

Biological and chemical differences effect emotions. That is why anti depressants work. They repair chemical imbalances. So women have a different emotional makeup than men naturally and scientifically.

As we can see by the quoted outburst.

LOL. I guess I was going along the lines of "Boys don't cry" and such. If you think that's an emotional outburst instead of me just calling you out, you don't know much about emotional outburst, which can be had by men or women. When men have an outburst they are considered aggressive or perhaps expressing their dominance. When a woman does the same thing, she's a B----. Societal construct.

 

[DD2008]

LOL. I guess I was going along the lines of "Boys don't cry" and such. If you think that's an emotional outburst instead of me just calling you out, you don't know much about emotional outburst, which can be had by men or women. When men have an outburst they are considered aggressive or perhaps expressing their dominance. When a woman does the same thing, she's a B----. Societal construct.

Regardless of who is labled what, your chemistry will effect your emotional state.

Actually I think it's kind of entertaining in like a little woodland animal kind of way when women throw emotional fits of powerlessness. It's like a squirrel trying to crack a nut that won't crack. So I don't call them names for that. It's sort of attractive.

Sometimes women just need men to protect them and fix stuff for them. It just requires trust. You must not have a lot of trust for men. I know we need to listen more, but women just need to settle down and let us fix it more, and things would run smoother.

Some women are hard headed though, you have to break em in like you do a good horse.

 

[lux et lex]

Regardless of who is labled what, your chemistry will effect your emotional state.

Actually I think it's kind of entertaining in like a little woodland animal kind of way when women throw emotional fits of powerlessness. It's like a squirrel trying to crack a nut that won't crack. So I don't call them names for that. It's sort of attractive.

Sometimes women just need men to protect them and fix stuff for them. It just requires trust. You must not have a lot of trust for men. I know we need to listen more, but women just need to settle down and let us fix it more, and things would run smoother.

Some women are hard headed though, you have to break em in like you do a good horse.

This is so sexist I am not going to respond.

 

[DD2008]

This is so sexist I am not going to respond.

ok.

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

I have a problem with radical feminism that says "we don't need men". That's just nonsense because both genders need the other, if only to continue the species (though when I say need I mean in an emotional and spiritual sense of the word, not merely physical.)
The word used for Help meet in the Hebrew Bible is Ezaar, the same word is used only once or twice more in the Bible, and it is always in the context of "God is my help in times of trouble." So when I think help meet I don't think thin, pale, fragile, or weak. Women are strong in many ways men are not, and it's evident in many parts of the world. For example when new communities are being rebuilt after a war it is often the women that nonprofit organizations use to rebuild the communities since they are the mothers and teachers of the culture.
Women are essential and it's unfortunate that the church has taken a being once created to stand by man in the face of adversity and has turned her into a meek mild pale little thing.

 

[dinonum]

Regardless of who is labled what, your chemistry will effect your emotional state.

Actually I think it's kind of entertaining in like a little woodland animal kind of way when women throw emotional fits of powerlessness. It's like a squirrel trying to crack a nut that won't crack. So I don't call them names for that. It's sort of attractive.

Sometimes women just need men to protect them and fix stuff for them. It just requires trust. You must not have a lot of trust for men. I know we need to listen more, but women just need to settle down and let us fix it more, and things would run smoother.

Some women are hard headed though, you have to break em in like you do a good horse.

I found a lot more fit-like behavior in your posts than lux et lex's post. You do realize you just spent the last 2-3 posts tearing down womankind and building yourself up, right? Interesting...

 

[DD2008]

I found a lot more fit-like behavior in your posts than lux et lex's post. You do realize you just spent the last 2-3 posts tearing down womankind and building yourself up, right? Interesting...

I wasn't tearing down woman kind. I was celebrating woman kind's femininity. I love woman kind.

I like feminine women. Opposites attract. I wouldn't want to marry a man in a woman's body. I would want to marry a real woman.

 

[dinonum]

I wasn't tearing down woman kind. I was celebrating woman kind's femininity. I love woman kind.

I like feminine women. Opposites attract. I wouldn't want to marry a man in a woman's body. I would want to marry a real woman.

You didn't describe femininity, lol, you described a grown baby...

 

[DD2008]

You didn't describe femininity, lol, you described a grown baby...

Everyone is a grown baby, baby.

 

[dinonum]

Everyone is a grown baby, baby.

Not everyone has to act like a baby, and yeah, your humor is lost when you refer to women as animals.

 

[DD2008]

Not everyone has to act like a baby, and yeah, your sarcasm is lost when you refer to women as animals.

I wasn't referring to women as animals. I was just making a comparison.

I'm just explaining that femininity is good, and attractive. Since I like femininity I guess that makes me a feminist!

 

[dinonum]

I wasn't referring to women as animals. I was just making a comparison.

I'm just explaining that femininity is good, and attractive. Since I like femininity I guess that makes me a feminist!

You aren't describing actual femininity though.

 

[DD2008]

You aren't describing actual femininity though.

Sure, women have traits and qualities men do not. They think of things we don't and we think of things they don't. However, we fit together. It's like light and dark, peas and carrots, rocky and bullwinkle...etc.

We should be thankful to God for what we are and not strive to be what we aren't. There is sufficient goodness in our given qualities to have a full life.

 

[dinonum]

You chose to generalize that women throw fits of powerlessness... are you really so dense or ignorant to not know that is both insulting and untrue? I don't throw fits and I know a lot of women who don't fit. One doesn't need to have wild animal-like qualities in order to allow their male counterparts to be a protector, I choose to let my husband take on that role.

Thus the reason why feminism is still clearly important. Women should be able to choose whether they want to portray themselves as these mentally and emotionally weak characters which you speak of, so if your wife wants that and is okay with that, then fine. That isn't how I choose to represent because such behavior is a sign of immaturity rather than a sign of femininity.

It also degrades men who aren't super strong characters who are in touch with any kind of emotions that they may experience.

 

[DD2008]

You chose to generalize that women throw fits of powerlessness... are you really so dense or ignorant to not know that is both insulting and untrue? I don't throw fits and I know a lot of women who don't fit. One doesn't need to have wild animal-like qualities in order to allow their male counterparts to be a protector, I choose to let my husband take on that role.

Thus the reason why feminism is still clearly important. Women should be able to choose whether they want to portray themselves as these mentally and emotionally weak characters which you speak of, so if your wife wants that and is okay with that, then fine. That isn't how I choose to represent because such behavior is a sign of immaturity rather than a sign of femininity.

It also degrades men who aren't super strong characters who are in touch with any kind of emotions that they may experience.

I guess ya'll just don't know when you're doing it.

Feminism is great!