Fellowship?

[brentsbaby612]

Does anyone know of any scriptures that command fellowship with fellow believers?

 

[debi b]

What are you looking for? Do you already have an answer in mind?

 

[brentsbaby612]

I really think the L-rd whats me to go to church(messianic congregation).My Darling Husband says that the Bible commands no where that you should go to church. I was just hopeing that someone here chould help me convince him otherwise.

 

[muffler dragon]

I really think the L-rd whats me to go to church(messianic congregation).My Darling Husband says that the Bible commands no where that you should go to church. I was just hopeing that someone here chould help me convince him otherwise.

Your husband is correct that there is no command to go to church.

However, he needs to pay attention to your needs for fellowship. That type of negation of you would not be G-dly. Please understand that I am not placing judgment or trying to get into your affairs, but you needn't be 'unequally yoked'.

My wife and I, presently, do not attend. We fellowship with a few people, but our lives are also consumed with our two-year-old. I have given thought, and look forward to attending a Jewish service. I just don't know when.

My whole frame of mind is fragmented on this topic, because I am, myself, absolutely torn. I have reservations of going any where for organized fellowship. I've just been burnt a little too hard, and that was three years ago. I have found myself latching onto the poor souls in this MJ forum. G-d bless them; they deal with me being here.

Anyway, to put closure to this, ask your husband to pray with you on this for guidance. If he doesn't even want to do that with you, then there's not much else I can say.

I wish you well.

 

[TasManOfGod]

Maybe Heb 10:25?

 

[brentsbaby612]

Thank You for your advice. I to have "latched" on to those in the MJ. It's been my fellowship since anything else would be rebelling against the wishes of my husband. Maybe someday he will change his mind! Otherwise, any prayers would be nice.
shalom/Erin

 

[JewishHeart]

I would encourage everybody to read Asher Intrater's book "Covenant Relationships."
Growing up in the church relationships were sometimes flakey. A smile and a "blessed" would be surface deep christianeese.Then there was the sheperding movement that placed church relationships as God and cursed to break them. After this came the lull of pyramidal accountability groups of real believers who cared but also in which all that mattered was our spiritual walk. Even in messianic circles, we pride ourselves with fellowship-oriented, but the truth of the matter is that beyond "Oneg" there was very little fellowship without discussing Torah.

I have noticed in christian circles around the world in third world countries it is very fellowshiped oriented. Maybe it is the Western busy culture here, maybe its our shields to vulnerability. The truth is that G-d made us for relationship with Him and with others. Love is commitment, not a cheap hello, or even help without relationship. Love one another !!! Yeshua set the example !

He took twelve men, built them up, exposed Himself to them, loved them, fed them, poured His heart to them, gave his mother to be taken care of to them, shared His Father with them, shared even enjoying a wedding with them, prayed that they would be one with Him even as He and the Father are one, then after He paid a heavy price for the whole world he left it to them to see that the price wasn't wasted. What an example of vulnerabilty! What an example of relationship!!!! Love God, Love Others. What did Yeshua mean? He sure left us an example. Even as I have loved you...

Here is Israel us messianics stick together in everything. If we err on a side it is on the side of too much relationship (if there is such thing). We care more about loving God and loving others than we do keeping every detail of Torah -which communal relationships is the goal of Torah - with God and with others.

Remember the Acts congregation- people sold everything and had everything in common willfully, what vulenerability !!!!

Relationships mean we have to heal from our wounds of the past where people have used our vulnerability. You can never truly love without vulnerability. On one hand it also says Yeshua trusted men, but never trusted Himself to men (in other words don't let men decide your convictions and don't give soul ties prematurely).

1 John says nobody can say He loves God and hates His brother... but love requires relationship. David speaks about loving the saints. It is like oil and pleasant when bretheren dwell together in unity. A man who says he is a loner with God doesn't understand the kingdom of God ! It is not about whether you go to church or not ( heck !!! I hate to see church-goers in flakey relationships- this isn't what God meant ! Its better to not go and be with believers who are relationship oriented !!!!)

David had both Johnathon and His mighty men !!! Every prophet had his school. Yeshua never sent anybody in one's , but in two's.

IN short, the Bible doesn't command you to go to church; it commands you to be in relationship with believers. Many faithful church-goers see believers with their smile and "I'm blessed" and break the command of relationship into pieces , while many others pick a couple families to be in deep relationship and it is pleasant to the L-rd!

 

[JewishHeart]

Erin,

You can't be in deep relationship with a forum... you can't trust somebody with your deepest thoughts over the www. I would suggest to find a couple believing trustable friends and talk about this concept with them.

 

[visionary]

In your relationship with the Lord, does He not provide if you but ask. Even in my walk, when I have found myself lonely for spiritual walk and fellowship, the Lord has provided for that time. Where two or three are gathered in my name, the Lord will be there.

There is fellowship available, not as the world sees it, but as we need. It is not fleeting but enduring, it does not have to be constant to be available. The fellowship come in many forms and in many manners, as various as the messenger of the Lord, for the Lord also has a sense of humor and will cheer you up. Trust in Him who provides for all our needs. Lean on Him who care for you.

We are here, and we love and care for you, though we may never meet. We are here, because we care, and we love to communicate with fellow believers. I know that it is not the same as face to face, but in this fast moving pace that this world moves at, we can only do what we can. For some of us, this is our world of communication, and for others, it is our outlet, but it still is used by the Lord to spread His Word, His Love, and His care and concern for all of His believers worldwide. It is in this forum that the Glory of the Lord can be revealed in ways that were not common before the age of computers. It is not wrong to fellowship through this medium, but if it is a hug you need, then you will need to ask the Lord to provide someone closer than us.

I, personnally, have not fellowship with any certain group, or associated myself with any assembly, but that does not mean that I have not witnessed, fellowshipped and have been blessed.

We are rapidly moving into the generation that is the Lord's little flock scattered, soon to torn into little remnants over the whole earth, as we enter the time of troubles, so great is the tribulation, that if it wasn't for the fact the Lord is going to have to cut it short for the elect's sake. Be not troubled by this fact, ask the Lord's blessing upon those around you, praying for fellowship in spiritual matters, and the Lord will lead you to the two or three that are gathering together in which you can fellowship with. The Lord keeps all His promises.

May the Lord bless you with the felllowship that you need.
Visionary

 

[JewishHeart]

Visionary,

I don't doubt that computers provide some sort of relationship; but it still isn't the perfect example that Yeshua set. Hahahaha , he had to get away sometimes to be with the Lord in a boat in the middle of the sea because He was so vulnerable to His disciples. I would encourage you for G-d's best and not second best !!!

 

[JewishHeart]

The pastor in me also reminds me that people are at different levels because they need to heal...

I love the fight between the pastor and prophet in me hahahaha

 

[rooster]

I would encourage everybody to read Asher Intrater's book "Covenant Relationships."
Growing up in the church relationships were sometimes flakey. A smile and a "blessed" would be surface deep christianeese.Then there was the sheperding movement that placed church relationships as God and cursed to break them. After this came the lull of pyramidal accountability groups of real believers who cared but also in which all that mattered was our spiritual walk. Even in messianic circles, we pride ourselves with fellowship-oriented, but the truth of the matter is that beyond "Oneg" there was very little fellowship without discussing Torah.

I have noticed in christian circles around the world in third world countries it is very fellowshiped oriented. Maybe it is the Western busy culture here, maybe its our shields to vulnerability. The truth is that G-d made us for relationship with Him and with others. Love is commitment, not a cheap hello, or even help without relationship. Love one another !!! Yeshua set the example !

He took twelve men, built them up, exposed Himself to them, loved them, fed them, poured His heart to them, gave his mother to be taken care of to them, shared His Father with them, shared even enjoying a wedding with them, prayed that they would be one with Him even as He and the Father are one, then after He paid a heavy price for the whole world he left it to them to see that the price wasn't wasted. What an example of vulnerabilty! What an example of relationship!!!! Love God, Love Others. What did Yeshua mean? He sure left us an example. Even as I have loved you...

Here is Israel us messianics stick together in everything. If we err on a side it is on the side of too much relationship (if there is such thing). We care more about loving God and loving others than we do keeping every detail of Torah -which communal relationships is the goal of Torah - with God and with others.

Remember the Acts congregation- people sold everything and had everything in common willfully, what vulenerability !!!!

Relationships mean we have to heal from our wounds of the past where people have used our vulnerability. You can never truly love without vulnerability. On one hand it also says Yeshua trusted men, but never trusted Himself to men (in other words don't let men decide your convictions and don't give soul ties prematurely).

1 John says nobody can say He loves God and hates His brother... but love requires relationship. David speaks about loving the saints. It is like oil and pleasant when bretheren dwell together in unity. A man who says he is a loner with God doesn't understand the kingdom of God ! It is not about whether you go to church or not ( heck !!! I hate to see church-goers in flakey relationships- this isn't what God meant ! Its better to not go and be with believers who are relationship oriented !!!!)

David had both Johnathon and His mighty men !!! Every prophet had his school. Yeshua never sent anybody in one's , but in two's.

IN short, the Bible doesn't command you to go to church; it commands you to be in relationship with believers. Many faithful church-goers see believers with their smile and "I'm blessed" and break the command of relationship into pieces , while many others pick a couple families to be in deep relationship and it is pleasant to the L-rd!

Very good point about vulnerability. It is not possible to have true fellowship without exposing yourself is it?


Oh yah, and i would imagine that the Messianic community in Isreal would be pretty tight right. Just had a pastor by the name of Jacob Damkani visit my church. He showed some videoclips of the outreach work that he was doing in Isreal and some of the most interesting is that he preaches and shares in army camps and he says 99% of the time they let his people in. Amazing. God is Great

 

[JewishHeart]

Yakov!!! If you see him, tell him Sean said Hi. He is a personal friend of mine and also goes to our congregation . He knows community, he grew up with the Keith Green community discipleship house. Talk about persecution, Yakov is one of Israel's oldest evangelists.

 

[brentsbaby612]

Erin,

You can't be in deep relationship with a forum... you can't trust somebody with your deepest thoughts over the www. I would suggest to find a couple believing trustable friends and talk about this concept with them.

I don't think I could trust my deepest thoughts to anyone but my husband anyway. I desire fellowship because I enjoy being in the presence of others who love the L-rd just as I do. Plus, I'd like to learn as much as I can while I'm here on earth. And that's where the forum comes in, I agree is not as good as a church. But it will work for now I guess!

 

[JewishHeart]

Church or no church, there is nothing like a believer you can trust face-to-face.

 

[brentsbaby612]

This is true, my husband's good for that. But when there's a problem like this one that I brought up. I have no one really because I can't go to church. But he dosen't want me to go to church. And so..the cycle continues! (excuse my melodrama)

 

[JewishHeart]

I understand - but never underestimate the power of fasting and intercession... it works !! It may take some time, but it works. You are a woman of God and I encourage you to pray for the best and not settle for second.

 

[rooster]

Yakov!!! If you see him, tell him Sean said Hi. He is a personal friend of mine and also goes to our congregation . He knows community, he grew up with the Keith Green community discipleship house. Talk about persecution, Yakov is one of Israel's oldest evangelists.

Dun think he is around anymore.
But i bought his book though, i think it'll be a good read