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But if I'm not saved I cannot live by the Spirit, because if I don't have the Spirit I can only be selfish and bad.
 
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I'm afraid that I'm not sincere enough though. I have a fear of hell but that doesn't equate to being a sincere follower of Christ.


I can't use the KJV though. I know a lot of people are KJV only but it's too difficult for me. I can't understand the English let alone the concepts.


Taoism tempts me sometimes but I've gotten rid of almost everything, except a few pictures I remembered I need to delete still.


I don't know if I'm in the light though.
 
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Go away and read your bible and come back and share with us what you've read!
 
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But if I'm not saved I cannot live by the Spirit, because if I don't have the Spirit I can only be selfish and bad.
You are limiting how great the love of God is for those who have accepted his Son as their Saviour and been born again of the Spirit.
I can assure you, if you have been unsaved due to your imperfections, I could also not be saved. But I know I am
 
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Dearglow, have you ever read the scripture that says the carnal mind is ENMITY with God? Yes it is, and it sure does try to mess us around and fight against the truth instead of just humbly receiving it and being corrected by it. Because the mind wants to be God, it actually thinks it is a god sitting up there on top of everything.....see how deceived it is? When really it can't even perceive the things of the Spirit. So stop listening to your own mind because it's a false, weak and deluded god which has no truth. The thoughts of the mind are deceived, the devil is a liar and thief, so start letting the mind of Christ be in you instead.........His Word, His truth........believe His mind, His word. If you are not sincere with the Lord then yes you are right, you will perish, and I would be lying if I said otherwise. If that's the case, you better decide to get sincere. Because you NEED Jesus......as we all do. Make up your mind to enlist in His war and start fighting on His side. If you don't yet realize that you NEED Him, then He is going to have to try and prove it to you and that could be a long rough ride and I truly truly hope you avoid that route.

If you believe in Jesus Christ, and that He is the Son of God and died for your sins and rose from the dead.........then start there. If you fell, repent of it, be forgiven and turn away from sin and begin again. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, let it cause you to seek the Lord (in prayer and scripture) and sincerely try to follow Him and be pleasing to Him in how you live. If you need His Spirit, or more of it, as we all do, then ask Him for it and keep asking.....ask, seek, knock and the door will be opened. We're not responsible for the answer, or how and when the Lord will answer, our part is to pray and ask, and be in obedience, so when you ask, leave it with Him.

Our enemy, our carnal minds, can try to cause us to be discouraged and give up on following the Lord.......do not believe the lies and negativity, since the carnal mind is ENMITY with God, but keep on following Jesus. As for sincerity......if you follow Jesus, carry your cross, obey Him, obey His word even when it hurts, and it will at times, that is how He knows you are sincere. A time came when I told the Lord, even if you were to throw me into hell, I would still keep following you, for the simple reason that you are the Truth, how can I deny the Truth that I have met face to face, who was revealed to my heart, and who keeps talking to me, and leading me, and walking beside me day after day. Remember Jesus trying to put the gentile woman off from receiving her child's healing.....and she would have none of it, she wouldn't be put off, but clung to Him harder, saying even the dogs lick up the crumbs from the children's table. That is both humble and persistent.....faith. Be like that, little sister. We're just humble little doggies so don't anybody pay us never mind......BUT OH WE WANT THOSE CRUMBS!
 
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Mental illness tells you LIES. As someone who is bipolar I know this all too well -- every time I become depressed, I am tempted to believe that it is all in my imagination, that no God exists, or that God exists but doesn't love me. Your schizophrenia is messing with you, my friend.

You should have a therapist as well as a psychiatrist. In addition to getting our advice here, this is a really good thing to talk to your therapist about. A GOOD therapist will not challenge your faith, but will help you discern between real doubts and what is your illness.
 
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Hi, Deerglow,
I happened once to be in a similar state. I read à book from Vittoz, who was a swiss christian GP, in thé early 20th, that gave me a great comfort.
Actually, Vittoz speaks of coming back to development of your 5 senses, or to their ré-éducation, so as not to let your brain be imagination, or émotion's toy.
Indeed, all the time you spend reeducating your senses, you can't let jour brain functionning, and you rebuild a balance. with your sensory body, that channels imagination and brain.
It takes a weight off one's mind, but of course, you first have to give temporarily your thinking up as lost. It depends how addicted you are to fear to know how much training you need to escape from your state of powerlessness to react.
God bless.
 
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Please listen to @stuart lawrence on this, DeerGlow. I totally empathize with your situation, as i went through it myself for about a year some time ago. And Stuart is right; the more afraid you are of doing or saying or thinking of something that will make God want to put you in hell, the more frequently the bad thoughts will come to mind, and thus also the more likely you will full yourself into thinking that you secretly want to believe or speak aloud the bad thoughts. Trust me, i know this from personal experience, and I understand that it is extremely hard to get over this mental condition. Somehow, you will have to discipline yourself to not feel fear or alarm when the thoughts pop into your head, for a time, and then they should eventually fade away, or at least be far less frequent. It is a very difficult task, I know. It will be very painful to deal with in the meantime. But I pray that God will be with you. Why is He called merciful far more often than angry or vengeful in the Bible, if He does not sympathize with your plight? I firmly believe He is not one to condemn so easily, and that He is well aware that in your heart you do not actually hate Him and want these blasphemous thoughts about Him. Do not let the fear of a false notion of God wanting to torture unbelievers in the fires of Gehenna forever overtake you, or that God's mercy ends so easily when here you are so disturbed by the bad thoughts about Him and cry for His mercy.
 
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