Federal Judge Blocks Gov. Youngkin's Voter Purge Program in Virginia (SCOTUS allows it to proceed)

[FreeinChrist]

The intent of the NVRA was NOT to violate state law nor was it to take self-identified non-citizens and put them back on the voter rolls. Virginia, before removing non-citizens, sends out a letter to each and gives them 14 days to claim they are an eligible voter and provide documentation. Also Virginia has same day registration and voting.

The intent of teh NVRA is not to take the ability to vote away from those able to legally vote. The NVRA is federal so over the state law of 2006.
And it is less than 14 days from the election now, so those removed by accident today do not get the chance to prove they should be able to vote.

They could have looked harder earlier in the year. As it is, 1600 votes are not going to change who wins the state even if all 1600 were illegal.
Where is the proof those not able to vote actually do vote?

 

[Valletta]

The intent of teh NVRA is not to take the ability to vote away from those able to legally vote. The NVRA is federal so over the state law of 2006.
And it is less than 14 days from the election now, so those removed by accident today do not get the chance to prove they should be able to vote.

They could have looked harder earlier in the year. As it is, 1600 votes are not going to change who wins the state even if all 1600 were illegal.
Where is the proof those not able to vote actually do vote?

Everyone is free to register to vote on election day. The Biden appointed judge is ordering that these individuals, the majority of whom are non-citizens, be re-instated on the voting rolls. The rare individual who perhaps mistakenly indicated they were not a citizen can register and vote in Virginia on election day and their votes are treated as transitional ballots until citizenship is verified.

 

[stevil]

Illegals should not be allowed to vote. This is the left imposing their ideas on the American people in spite of the law.

As far as I understanding the USA left don't want illegals voting in USA presidential elections
And also as far as I understand it, illegals don't vote in the USA presidential elections. Maybe you can find a couple of isolated incidents, but it doesn't rise to anything significant.

This is the case of Republican politicians wanting to suppress voters and using the "trying to stop illegals from voting" as an excuse for their shenanigans. There is no problem with illegals voting, but there is a problem with the Republican party trying to suppress votes, especially trying to suppress votes of minorities.

 

[Valletta]

As far as I understanding the USA left don't want illegals voting in USA presidential elections
And also as far as I understand it, illegals don't vote in the USA presidential elections. Maybe you can find a couple of isolated incidents, but it doesn't rise to anything significant.

This is the case of Republican politicians wanting to suppress voters and using the "trying to stop illegals from voting" as an excuse for their shenanigans. There is no problem with illegals voting, but there is a problem with the Republican party trying to suppress votes, especially trying to suppress votes of minorities.

You're spreading a fabrication, a hoax that Republicans are trying to suppress the votes of minorities. Realize that in the United States, as can be seen in DEI and CRT and the persecution of Jews, the vast majority of racism is not with the Republicans. In the last election many illegal things were done, there were unmanned drop boxes. While the Democrats have insisted the border is safe, secure, and closed, perhaps 20 million illegals have entered our country. At a minimum, illegals can be counted in a census which would add electoral votes to certain areas. At worst some illegals might feel emboldened to vote. Democrats are now trying to reinstate non-citizens on the voter rolls. There is no reason to do so except that they might vote, and illegals can be expected to vote for Democrats.

 

[stevil]

You're spreading a fabrication, a hoax that Republicans are trying to suppress the votes of minorities.

It's true that many Republicans are trying to suppress voting of minorities. It has been a tactic of the Republican party for many years now.

In the last election many illegal things were done, there were unmanned drop boxes.

The last election was relatively secure. There was very little fraud, certainly nowwhere near enough to impact the outcome.

While the Democrats have insisted the border is safe, secure, and closed, perhaps 20 million illegals have entered our country.

The Democrats have acknowledge that there are problems with processing the huge numbers of applications for assylum. They worked with some Republicans to create a bill to address many of the issues. Trump got the Republicans to vote against the bill because he wants the border to be a mess, he thinks that would be good for him.

At worst some illegals might feel emboldened to vote.

This hasn't been a significant problem and isn't a significant problem. undocumented immigrants don't really care who is in government, by and large they try to stay under the radar so that they don't get deported, they have much less interest that your average USA citizen in committing any crimes.

 

[ViaCrucis]

As far as I understanding the USA left don't want illegals voting in USA presidential elections
And also as far as I understand it, illegals don't vote in the USA presidential elections. Maybe you can find a couple of isolated incidents, but it doesn't rise to anything significant.

This is the case of Republican politicians wanting to suppress voters and using the "trying to stop illegals from voting" as an excuse for their shenanigans. There is no problem with illegals voting, but there is a problem with the Republican party trying to suppress votes, especially trying to suppress votes of minorities.

Bingo.

This isn't about stopping non-citizens from voting. It's about trying to game the system, because the biggest threat to MAGA Republicans is the will and voice of the American people.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[FreeinChrist]

Everyone is free to register to vote on election day.

And they get a provisional ballot that is checked on after election day.

Having a provisional ballot does not mean your vote is accepted. One still has to be a citizen to have their vote accepted.

The Biden appointed judge is ordering that these individuals, the majority of whom are non-citizens, be re-instated on the voting rolls. The rare individual who perhaps mistakenly indicated they were not a citizen can register and vote in Virginia on election day and their votes are treated as transitional ballots until citizenship is verified.

He told the Youngkin folks to reinstate the ones they removed in case they are mistaken, or have gotten citizenship since getting a DL, and because they person who has been taken off the rolls may be unaware of what was done.

AND because it is being done within the 90 days. Previous governors stuck to the state law that had removals done monthly. Youngkin is having it done daily.

 

[Valletta]

And they get a provisional ballot that is checked on after election day.

Having a provisional ballot does not mean your vote is accepted. One still has to be a citizen to have their vote accepted.



He told the Youngkin folks to reinstate the ones they removed in case they are mistaken, or have gotten citizenship since getting a DL, and because they person who has been taken off the rolls may be unaware of what was done.

AND because it is being done within the 90 days. Previous governors stuck to the state law that had removals done monthly. Youngkin is having it done daily.

As I said, anyone can register to vote on election day. For the exceptions that made a mistake they can to fill out and sign a new registration form.
If, for instance, you make a mistake on your passport application they don't fix it for you, you have to fill out and sign another form.

 

[FreeinChrist]

As I said, anyone can register to vote on election day. For the exceptions that made a mistake they can to fill out and sign a new registration form.
If, for instance, you make a mistake on your passport application they don't fix it for you, you have to fill out and sign another form.

It does not mean it is going to count. People should not find out on election day that they were purged wrongly.

 

[Valletta]

It's true that many Republicans are trying to suppress voting of minorities. It has been a tactic of the Republican party for many years now.

Your not from the United States, you've got your political parties reversed.

 

[Valletta]

It does not mean it is going to count. People should not find out on election day that they were purged wrongly.

The concern is about so many non-citizens who are registered to vote. Virginia is a toss-up.

 

[FreeinChrist]

The concern is about so many non-citizens who are registered to vote. Virginia is a toss-up.

Is it?
When is the last time either candidate campaigned there?

 

[Valletta]

Is it?
When is the last time either candidate campaigned there?

Trump will be campaigning in Salem, Virginia on November 2nd. Here is a link to the Salem Civic center listing the event:

Salem Civic Center | Salem, VA

www.salemciviccenter.com

 

[KCfromNC]

In the last election many illegal things were done

Sure, but this isn't a thread about Trump being under indictment for his actions in the last election.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Trump will be campaigning in Salem, Virginia on November 2nd. Here is a link to the Salem Civic center listing the event:

Salem Civic Center | Salem, VA

www.salemciviccenter.com

Harris has a 6 point lead over Trump in Virginia

He is doing a campaign event in New York City and he doesn't have a prayer there. There is no particular reason to go there.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Trump will be campaigning in Salem, Virginia on November 2nd. Here is a link to the Salem Civic center listing the event:

Salem Civic Center | Salem, VA

www.salemciviccenter.com

A single appearance by Trump is a clear indicator that the there is no contested race there. (See Cochella, MSG)

 

[Valletta]

A single appearance by Trump is a clear indicator that the there is no contested race there. (See Cochella, MSG)

Trump has days left before the election and since Trump decides to go there you conclude it's not a contested race? Interesting logic.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Trump has days left before the election and since Trump decides to go there you conclude it's not a contested race? Interesting logic.

Woosh....

That the *ONLY* campaign event is a single Trump "rally" is evidence that it isn't a truly contested state. Trump is going to places where the presidential election is not in question for other reasons. (What those are is hard to discern.) Not sure why he would go to Virginia late in the campaign. Aren't there voters in swing states to convince?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Virginia asks US Supreme Court to reinstate removals of 1,600 voter registrations​

The request comes after a federal appeals court on Sunday unanimously upheld a federal judge's order restoring the registrations of those 1,600 voters, whom the judge said were illegally purged under an executive order by the state's Republican governor.

The appeals court said Virginia is wrong to assert that it is being forced to restore 1,600 noncitizens to the voter rolls. The judges found that Virginia's process for removing voters established no proof that those purged were actually noncitizens.

A similar lawsuit was filed in Alabama, and a federal judge there last week ordered the state to restore eligibility for more than 3,200 voters who had been deemed ineligible noncitizens. Testimony from state officials in that case showed that roughly 2,000 of the 3,251 voters who were made inactive were actually legally registered citizens.

 

[Valletta]

Woosh....

That the *ONLY* campaign event is a single Trump "rally" is evidence that it isn't a truly contested state. Trump is going to places where the presidential election is not in question for other reasons. (What those are is hard to discern.) Not sure why he would go to Virginia late in the campaign. Aren't there voters in swing states to convince?

A new telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports and American Thinker finds that, if the election were held today, 48% of Likely Virginia voters would vote for Vice President Kamala Harris, while 46% would vote for former President Donald Trump. Four percent (four%) say they would vote for some other candidate, while another three percent (3%) are still undecided.

Election 2024: Harris 48%, Trump 46% in Virginia; Cruz +4 in Texas

The presidential race is unusually close in Virginia, while Texas Sen. Ted Cruz leads in his bid for a third term.

www.rasmussenreports.com