Federal Judge Blocks Gov. Youngkin's Voter Purge Program in Virginia (SCOTUS allows it to proceed)

[essentialsaltes]

The NVRA imposes a “quiet period” within 90 days of a federal election that prohibits the systematic removal of voters from state registration lists. But exactly 90 days prior to the Nov. 5 general election, Youngkin announced an executive order requiring Virginia’s elections commissioner to regularly remove individuals “identified as non-citizens” who haven’t responded to a request to verify their citizenship within 14 days.

Giles agreed with the plaintiffs that the challenged purge program is at odds with the NVRA’s 90-day quiet period and that it amounted to a systematic — as opposed to individualized — removal of voters.

 

[Fantine]

Thank God there are still good judges who believe in democracy in America.

 

[Hazelelponi]

This law in Virginia was approved by the DOJ as being in accordance with the Constitution in 2006 when this law was enacted and this law has been used within the 90 day window by Democratic governor's in the past more than once.

This is in no wise "purging" the voter rolls because it is specific to people who have self-identified as being here in the country illegally (at the DMV), and have also registered to vote or otherwise been found on the voter rolls.

These people are informed and they are given 14 days to respond with proof of their eligibility to vote.

If they disagree with the results of any determination, they can still cast a provisional ballot while the matter of eligibility is cleared up.

This law is wonderful when it is Democrats enacting it but bad when Republicans do? Really?

These 1600 people have self identified as being here illegally and their constitutional rights were never in danger, and there's no danger of a citizen being denied a vote since if they disagreed they can still cast a provisional ballot while matters get straightened out.

To keep, and legally fight to keep 1600 self identified illegals on the voter rolls when it's against both state and federal law for them to vote is absolutely and 100% unjust to the citizens in the state of Virginia and risks their constitutional rights to representation.

What if, in a close election that has a spread of 900 votes difference Trump wins the election by 300 votes.

Then later we find, after the certification of the election, that 1400 illegals all voted for Trump.

Would that not be deprivation of the constitutional rights of Virginians this election for someone picked by illegals won instead of who the citizens wanted?

You can't turn the clock on this. Have to say I am more than just appalled at this administration, I'm downright angry.

They aim to dilute my vote with illegals? More than just a hard no in that... These are my constitutional rights people are playing with.

 

[Fantine]

I'm sorry, but your source is Fox News so i really don't trust it.

Or maybe there are 1600 suspected undocumented voters they have lumped in with 75,000 others. Who knows?

The courts have their reasons, and Fox' heavy editing of the Republican candidate's videos to make it appear he is coherent to Fox viewers is so wrong.

Here we are wondering how you can all think he is mentally competent and then we find out Fox is doctoring the videos to make him appear to be.

 

[Valletta]

The NVRA imposes a “quiet period” within 90 days of a federal election that prohibits the systematic removal of voters from state registration lists. But exactly 90 days prior to the Nov. 5 general election, Youngkin announced an executive order requiring Virginia’s elections commissioner to regularly remove individuals “identified as non-citizens” who haven’t responded to a request to verify their citizenship within 14 days.

Giles agreed with the plaintiffs that the challenged purge program is at odds with the NVRA’s 90-day quiet period and that it amounted to a systematic — as opposed to individualized — removal of voters.

Illegals should not be allowed to vote. This is the left imposing their ideas on the American people in spite of the law.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Illegals should not be allowed to vote.

It is illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal elections.

This is the left imposing their ideas on the American people in spite of the law.

This is federal law (passed with bipartisan support) imposing limits to what can be done within 90 days of an election.

 

[Valletta]

It is illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal elections.

This is federal law (passed with bipartisan support) imposing limits to what can be done within 90 days of an election.

The law has been in effect for 18 years. 25 days before the election the Biden/Harris administration decided they wanted the illegals to be able to vote. This is election interference.

 

[essentialsaltes]

25 days before the election the Biden/Harris administration decided they wanted the illegals to be able to vote.

90 days before the election, Gov. Youngkin decided he wanted to do something in violation of federal election law.
He had 218 days in 2024 in which these voter roll changes could have been made legally.

 

[Hazelelponi]

90 days before the election, Gov. Youngkin decided he wanted to do something in violation of federal election law.
He had 218 days in 2024 in which these voter roll changes could have been made legally.

He's not in violation of Federal election law it's already been reviewed!

Not only that, but the two most recent Democratic governor's have administered this law within the 90 day window the same as the current Republican governor is doing.

We have a law that's been reviewed and no issues being used in exactly this manner when it's used by Democrats.

This Administration is disenfranchising the American people their vote by forcing the state to keep individuals who self identified as non-citizens under penalty of purjury on official state government documents, on the voter rolls, thereby allowing illegals to vote in US elections against Federal law.

This Administration has committed criminal acts against the citizens of the United States of America and failed to uphold their oath of office.

If you want to know who the threat to democracy is it's these people, Kamala Harris and her mentally impaired leader. This is the threat to our way of life.

They are installing a dictator right before your eyes and with your full consent.

A woman who didn't receive a single vote by a single person is breaking United States law in order to disenfranchize the American people of their vote by using illegals to vote illegally in our elections.

people are insane.

 

[Fantine]

I don't believe a single word of this but am curious about the source. Russia? China? Elon Musk?

 

[essentialsaltes]

If you want to know who the threat to democracy is it's these people, Kamala Harris and her mentally impaired leader. This is the threat to our way of life.

They are installing a dictator right before your eyes and with your full consent.

A woman who didn't receive a single vote by a single person is breaking United States law in order to disenfranchize the American people of their vote by using illegals to vote illegally in our elections.

people are insane.

Facts are unaffected by your emotional response to them.

 

[Fantine]

Emotional?

I'm not emotional...

Democrats just started civil war. I'm perfectly fine.

The country isn't.

Democrats cannot control the unpredictable behavior of Trump's supporters, especially when he baits and incites their anger and hatred against his "enemies," ordinary people, their neighbors and family members with different views.
The Republican candidate, an ordinary citizen, should be held responsible for any efforts he might make to weaponize his supporters into an angry mob--as they were on 1/6.

 

[FreeinChrist]

The law has been in effect for 18 years. 25 days before the election the Biden/Harris administration decided they wanted the illegals to be able to vote. This is election interference.

You are relying on conspiracy theory apparently.

Illegals cannot vote in federal or state elections. Legal residents who are not citizens cannot vote in federal or state elections.

This fact check may help you:

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/biden-immigration-program-misrepresented-online-2024-07-03/

VERDICT​

Missing context. Biden’s new immigration policy does not grant citizenship to undocumented immigrants but eases the process for eligible noncitizens to obtain lawful permanent residence, a status that can’t vote in federal elections.​

 

[FreeinChrist]

He's not in violation of Federal election law it's already been reviewed!

Not only that, but the two most recent Democratic governor's have administered this law within the 90 day window the same as the current Republican governor is doing.

We have a law that's been reviewed and no issues being used in exactly this manner when it's used by Democrats.

This Administration is disenfranchising the American people their vote by forcing the state to keep individuals who self identified as non-citizens under penalty of purjury on official state government documents, on the voter rolls, thereby allowing illegals to vote in US elections against Federal law.

This Administration has committed criminal acts against the citizens of the United States of America and failed to uphold their oath of office.

If you want to know who the threat to democracy is it's these people, Kamala Harris and her mentally impaired leader. This is the threat to our way of life.

They are installing a dictator right before your eyes and with your full consent.

A woman who didn't receive a single vote by a single person is breaking United States law in order to disenfranchize the American people of their vote by using illegals to vote illegally in our elections.

people are insane.

Most of this is just craziness.
I can't take it seriously any more than I buy into flat earther nonsense.

 

[Valletta]

Illegals cannot vote in federal or state elections. Legal residents who are not citizens cannot vote in federal or state elections.

False. They can but it is unlawful to do so. That is why the state of Virginia is removing admitted illegals from the voter rolls. The Democrats, just like they were with inflation and their crazy spending bills, were warned about election interference. Here is an excellent commentary, and I agree it may again backfire on them:

"The Biden-Harris DOJ lawsuit may help Democrats cheat at the margins — and there is no rational reason to bring such a lawsuit except to make it easier for aliens to vote illegally. Nevertheless, I sense this will be a net negative for Harris, maybe a consequential one, because it underscores that progressive Democrats have quite intentionally collapsed border security in the United States."

Judge Orders Virginia to Restore Aliens to Voter Rolls | National Review

A Biden-appointed judge sided with the DOJ effort to restore aliens, who may not legally vote, to the state’s voter rolls — eleven days before the election.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[FreeinChrist]

False. They can but it is unlawful to do so. That is why the state of Virginia is removing admitted illegals from the voter rolls. The Democrats, just like they were with inflation and their crazy spending bills, were warned about election interference. Here is an excellent commentary, and I agree it may again backfire on them:

True. Neither illegals nor legal non-citizen residents may vote in any state or federal election.

Nor is there evidence of them do so.
Trump just makes unsubstantiated claims.

"The Biden-Harris DOJ lawsuit may help Democrats cheat at the margins — and there is no rational reason to bring such a lawsuit except to make it easier for aliens to vote illegally. Nevertheless, I sense this will be a net negative for Harris, maybe a consequential one, because it underscores that progressive Democrats have quite intentionally collapsed border security in the United States."

Judge Orders Virginia to Restore Aliens to Voter Rolls | National Review

A Biden-appointed judge sided with the DOJ effort to restore aliens, who may not legally vote, to the state’s voter rolls — eleven days before the election.

www.nationalreview.com

No, they brought the lawsuit as what Youngkin wanted was daily removals where the law said review monthly.

As to who brought the lawsuit,:

Federal judge issues order to pause, reverse Virginia voter purge

Gov. Glenn Youngkin and the attorney general have pledged to appeal it.

wamu.org

On Aug. 7, Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin ordered that the Virginia Department of Elections (ELECT) and Department of Motor Vehicles run their existing voter list maintenance processes more frequently — sometimes daily. Critics called the order politically motivated.​

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In response, a group of civic organizations — The Virginia Coalition For Immigrant Rights, The League of Women Voters of Virginia, The League of Women Voters of Virginia Education Fund, and African Communities Together — as well as the U.S. Justice Department sued the commonwealth and various state officials, including Elections Commission Susan Beals, Attorney General Jason Miyares and the State Board of Elections.......​

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Ryan Snow from the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, who is representing the plaintiffs, said Wednesday that a large portion of the 1,600 removed voters were in fact eligible to vote — and that voter registration applications were denied under the new processes.​

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In a filing Thursday, the plaintiffs provided stories of what they called eligible voters who were removed from voter rolls. Those included a “lifelong Republican” from Henrico whose registration was canceled in September, because she had the box for citizenship status unchecked.​

So Youngkin stepped up the removals from monthly which was how state law had it, to daily, which is being done within the 90 days before a federal election. His administration removed 1600 which included some lifelong Republicans.

 

[Valletta]

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In a filing Thursday, the plaintiffs provided stories of what they called eligible voters who were removed from voter rolls. Those included a “lifelong Republican” from Henrico whose registration was canceled in September, because she had the box for citizenship status unchecked.​

Let's make sure to give a fair representation of those in question:

Youngkin, in a statement after Giles' ruling, said, "Let's be clear about what just happened: only eleven days before a Presidential election, a federal judge ordered Virginia to reinstate over 1,500 individuals – who self-identified themselves as noncitizens – back onto the voter rolls."
"Almost all these individuals had previously presented immigration documents confirming their noncitizen status, a fact recently verified by federal authorities," the governor said.

Judge blocks Virginia from purging voter rolls of alleged noncitizens

The ruling in Virginia on its voter rolls comes as Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are in a tight presidential election contest.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

 

[essentialsaltes]

Let's make sure to give a fair representation of those in question:

Youngkin, in a statement after Giles' ruling, said, "Let's be clear about what just happened: only eleven days before a Presidential election, a federal judge ordered Virginia to reinstate over 1,500 individuals – who self-identified themselves as noncitizens – back onto the voter rolls."
"Almost all these individuals had previously presented immigration documents confirming their noncitizen status, a fact recently verified by federal authorities," the governor said.

Judge blocks Virginia from purging voter rolls of alleged noncitizens

The ruling in Virginia on its voter rolls comes as Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are in a tight presidential election contest.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Youngkin's claim, whether it is true or false, does not change the text of the NVRA.

 

[FreeinChrist]

"Almost all....." how many is that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/10/25/youngkin-voting-law-injunction-noncitizens/

I am making some of this bold for emphasis

U.S. District Judge Patricia Tolliver Giles rejected arguments from attorneys for Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R), who had signed an executive order Aug. 7 to expedite the removal of registered voters who checked a box on their driver’s license applications indicating they were not U.S. citizens. Fully qualified voters who simply skipped or overlooked the question have been caught up in the purge, as have those who became citizens years after their first interaction with the Department of Motor Vehicles, officials have said.​

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A federal court this month halted a similar program in Alabama after a challenge from the Justice Department, which argued in both cases that officials were sweeping eligible voters in their efforts to remove noncitizens. The swift response from federal authorities marked an escalation of enforcement actions on voting rights at a time when many leading Republicans, including GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, have made false claims of widespread voting fraud, including by undocumented immigrants......​

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Bert Bayou, deputy executive director of African Communities Together, said some of their members who are naturalized citizens had been removed, and some didn’t know it. “We have to go back and educate people” that their rights were restored, he said. Bayou said some of his members had first gotten their driver’s licenses, then later became naturalized citizens, enabling them to vote but also getting them caught in the recent eligibility review.​

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The National Voter Registration Act prohibits states from conducting systematic voter purges during a 90-day “quiet period” before a federal election, in part to prevent mistakes, lawyers from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division and voting rights organizations argued.​

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They should have done this after the 2022 election, or monthly like the 2006 state law has it.

 

[Valletta]

Youngkin's claim, whether it is true or false, does not change the text of the NVRA.

The intent of the NVRA was NOT to violate state law nor was it to take self-identified non-citizens and put them back on the voter rolls. Virginia, before removing non-citizens, sends out a letter to each and gives them 14 days to claim they are an eligible voter and provide documentation. Also Virginia has same day registration and voting.