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ive heard it said that a true Christian will never fully doubt, a sin never backsliding to the point of being an atheist or other religion follower. Does this mean I was never saved before I backslide? And can I be saved now? Is eternal life conditional on 100% of the time faith?
When Jesus Christ died on the Cross, He shed His blood for the forgiveness of your sins. If you have repented and placed your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, all of your sins — past, present, and future — are nailed to that tree (Colossians 2:14). That is the gospel, no more and no less.
That is OSAS, or once saved always saved theology, it means you can do whatever you want and still go to heaven, but you Deerglow, already know that isn't a fact or you wouldn't be here now.
I won't argue the point because it's been done to death around here but just a warning not to buy into the easy way some preach.
I really hope im not condemned but I'm afraid
ive heard it said that a true Christian will never fully doubt, a sin never backsliding to the point of being an atheist or other religion follower. Does this mean I was never saved before I backslide? And can I be saved now? Is eternal life conditional on 100% of the time faith?
That is OSAS, or once saved always saved theology, it means you can do whatever you want and still go to heaven, but you Deerglow, already know that isn't a fact or you wouldn't be here now.
I won't argue the point because it's been done to death around here but just a warning not to buy into the easy way some preach.
But we are told, those who say they have no sin, are liars and make Christ out to be a liar.
Yet no one is saying or even implying they have no sin, and I'm not even certain why you bring that up except that it's a favorite of OSAS'rs.
When you say all sins are forgiven past present and future, that kinda it OSAS.
I'm worried that it's either OSAS or Twice Lost Always Lost. I think you even said earlier that could get you unsaved. I really hope im not condemned but I'm afraid
That would come from the face value of said verse:
Hebrews 6:4-7New International Version (NIV)
4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen[a] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
So ask yourself
1. Did I taste the gift (that is, were you assured of salvation)?
2. Did I share in the Holy Spirit (that is, you yourself were no longer under the hold of sin, but under the Spirit)?
3. Did I experience first hand the power of God's work of salvation within myself?
4. Did I repent of my sins before any of this?
If the answer is no to any of these, I would (for myself personally) question (as you are) the actual Christian state or lack thereof I was in.
A lot of people think they are Christians, but are far from it.
I follow this.
The scripture say we are Justified by faith. Other words, our sins are cleansed from the day we repent to the first one we ever committed.
It also tells us that He will keep us and that nothing can separate us. That He can preserve us.
It also tells us that we can walk away from the faith.
All three are true.
neither contradict each other.
Because He is God, there is nothing Is impossible for Him.
Because we are fallen, sinful, men and Christ died yet while we were in sin.
Therefore I will stick to God's word, knowing that I am Born Again and that one day soon, will be with Him.
The Gospel is the same, be assured of your salvation, through the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That is what I meant toward DeerGlow.
Not Doctrine of any church.
DeerGlow,
It's okay to doubt, to a point. We all do it. That's when we are to turn To Christ and put our trust in Him. Not in ourselves or doctrines of men.
If you are fully living in sin, If you live your life the way of the World and are not doing those things which are holy. Then you may not be saved.
If you are a Child of God and you do sin, Then go to God, repent of the sin, trusting the the Advocate will forgive you of that sin. Ask God to help you not to do it again, to sanctify you, more. Because sanctification isn't a one time thing, it's progressive. We go through things in life, that God allows to happen and when we put our trust in Him to get us through it, we are sanctified from that. God's righteousness grows within us.
Turn to the Gospel. Remind yourself of what God did for you and why you came to Him. Not out of fear of Hell, but Because He loved you first. That it's His will for you to be saved.
But DeerGlow, if you are living in sin. Have broke God's commandments and have not repented, trusted Christ, read your bible and pray. Finding a good church to worship and fellowship with those of like mind and heart. Then repent. He'll forgive you. Keep the faith.
You say He will forgive me and then say keep the faith. What if I've already been cut out of it during my backsliding?
I became a Christian at such a young age I can hardly remember it and i know some people say if you don't remember it wasn't enough or a four year old wouldn't really understand enough to be saved. I know I believed, I had faith as a kid, though I was pretty sinful sometimes, the things God has done for me I'm sure I was saved my fear is losing that salvation. That on judgement day He will say "You wicked thing get away from Me." And send me to hell. It is a very real fear that makes me spontaneously cold or hot, makes me literally shake (as in panic/anxiety attacks), I switch between hysterical fear of death and suicidal thoughts and I'm so ready to cry but if my doubting and sinning cannot be forgiven then enough tears to drown the world couldn't save me. But yet sometimes I think my fate must be sealed, the way I've lived I've either been rejected already or can't do any worse sins and I sin A LOT during those times. I don't want to be rejected and sent to hell.
ALL sin was forgiven when Jesus shed His blood on the Cross. In Heb. it says that there is no forgiving of sin without the shedding of blood. It also says that there will be no more shedding of blood for sin. It also says that Jesus will die no more.
If that is not enough evidence that ALL the sins of the world have been forgiven, then you need to read the words of Jesus. He said that He was sent to do two things, forgive the sins of the world, and fulfill the Law and the Prophets. When He died on the Cross, He said "it is finished." So ALL the sins of the world are forgiven, Past, Present, and Future.
So, explain to me why you ask God to forgive you of your sins. Is there instructions in the Scripture where we are commanded to ask God to forgive us, or is this something that our Church forefathers started that sounded good from the pulpit? It is doctrines and traditions of man, much like a lot of other things that is taught from the pulpit. Our sins have been forgiven for a long time, and will be forgiven forever.
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