Just out of curiosity, did you believe in the Trump-Russia collusion hoax back in its media heyday?
Do you care that law enforcement was rigging what are now admitted to be fraudulent FISA warrants to go after Trump's administration? Or following leads that they knew were products of his political opposition? That the lead operators of the counter-intelligence investigation into Trump were privately texting how much they detested him and his supporters?
Does it matter that the politicians leading the public advance of "Trump-Russia Conspiracy" knew and admitted in private sessions that there was no actual evidence of it?
Does any of this matter to you?
Is it not logical to assume there is more going on here than the one-sided cartoonish narrative that Trump is always guilty of everything?
At this point it seems clear to me and may others that none of this hostility against Trump is really about facts or evidence. A lot of people just really hate Trump on an ideological level, and they are willing to sacrifice the credibility of all America's institutions to take him down. It doesn't actually matter if he is guilty of what he is accused of... Donald Trump's mere existence makes him automatically guilty and so his enemies are justified in making up crimes to destroy him and his followers.
Today the same people who were wringing their hands about Trump's supposed 'threat to democracy', are now nodding in enthusiastic agreement about the idea of launching an official state-sponsored domestic war on his tens of millions of supporters. And they don't even recognize a shred of irony in this.
What a sad and embarrassing end to America.
Well now hold on a minute. Allow me to offer a different view based on some factual evidence.
First here are some facts that can be proven about people through the semantics in people's words and the mind they project:
1) A sound mind actually wants to know the Truth about what happened.
2) Those who actually want to know the Truth about what happened do not reason upon bias as a foundation for logic.
Facts about how the "Russia Hoax" started:
1) The DNC was reportedly hacked by someone, 2015-2016.
2) The DNC says it was the Russians. Either the DNC was hacked by the Russians, or it wasn't.
3) The document dumps by WikiLeaks about Hillary, which Donald loved to read at his campaign rallies, was meant to hurt Hillary's campaign not Trump's.
4) Whoever was behind the hacks, and the release of stolen the documents would rather have Trump win.
5) In 2015 Trump was posed a question by "Maria Butina". She wanted to know about his position on Russia and specifically about
removing sanctions against Russia for invading Crimea imposed during the Obama administration. Trump replied: “I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin ... I don’t think you’d need the sanctions. I think we would get along very, very well.”
6) On June 9, 2016 the Trump Tower meeting took place where representatives of Russian interests met with the Trump Campaign. We were told by Don junior that it was to discuss getting dirt on Hillary, and about reinstating an adoption program for Russian orphans. Note: The adoption program had been shut down as part of Putin retaliation for
the sanctions imposed by America and her allies for Russia invading Crimea.
7) On June 14, 2016 came the announcement that the DNC had been hacked and that they believed it was the Russians.
8) On June 17, 2016 Fox News said this:
Trump, for his part, isn’t buying the DNC explanation that this is the work of some nefarious outside hacker. He said, “We believe it was the DNC that did the ‘hacking’ as a way to distract from the many issues facing their deeply flawed candidate and failed party leader. Too bad the DNC doesn’t hack Crooked Hillary’s 33,000 missing emails.”
Now that sounds far-fetched as well. Not only is there nothing new here, but no one can absorb 200 pages at once. Why not dribble out the attacks, package them as talking points, put them in attack ads, rather than create a bogus hacking story and dump it all out there? Or dress it up with some narrative and release it as a report?
9) Please note above that on June 17,2016 Fox news was suggesting to the viewer's minds that
the hacking story is Bogus (a hoax according to Trump)
. At the time Trump is saying,
"We believe it was the DNC that did the 'hacking' as a way to distract from the many issues facing their deeply flawed candidate and failed party leader". What's important to note here is that the messaging is inferring that the suggestion that Russia hacked the DNC is a Hoax/Fake story invented by the Democratic party.
10) On the same day, June 17,2016, Putin says he does not have a preference for who wins U.S. election, though he welcomes Trump's pledge
to restore U.S.-Russia ties. Putin says
, "We never interfere in other countries’ internal politics, especially the U.S."
We can see that this presents a contradiction in reasoning since "We never" is contradicted by "especially the U.S."... And that he said he welcomes Trump's "pledge" to restore U.S.- Russian ties despite claiming no preference.
11) June or July 2016, according to an indictment, Stone informs the Trump campaign about possible Wikileaks release of damaging Clinton documents.
12) From July 24, 2016. Below is an interview with Jake Tapper. Please keep in mind when you read it, that Don junior is already aware that Russia is trying to help Trump win when he gives this interview, (because he has already had the meeting at Trump Tower and has already read the email stating: This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but
is part of
Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump, June 3,2016).
JAKE TAPPER: So, I don't know if you were hearing earlier, but Robby Mook, the campaign manager for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — I asked him about the DNC leak. And he suggested that experts are saying that Russians were behind both the leak — the hacking of the DNC emails and their release. He seemed to be suggesting that this is part of a plot to help Donald Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton. Your response?
TRUMP JR.: Well, it just goes to show you their exact moral compass. I mean, they will say anything to be able to win this. I mean, this is time and time again, lie after lie. You notice he won't say, well, I say this. We hear experts. You know, here's (INAUDIBLE) at home once said that this is what's happening with the Russians. It's disgusting. It's so phony. I watched him bumble through the interview, I was able to hear it on audio a little bit. I mean, I can't think of bigger lies, but that exactly goes to show you what the DNC and what the Clinton camp will do. They will lie and do anything to win.
13) Please note that in the first of the following tweets the "fake news" must be referring to
help from Russia to help Trump win. It therefore cannot be referring to a fake story about "collusion", since that would have nothing to do with an excuse for why Hillary lost. However, the second tweet changes the original context for "Fake story/Hoax" from helping Trump win, to collusion. And this change in context in the second tweet works to actually contradict the first tweet, since collusion with Russia could not even be considered viable unless it was Russia that was actually behind the hack, after all.
Feb. 16, 2017 Trump tweet:
The Democrats had to come up with a story as to why they lost the election, and so badly (306), so they made up a story - RUSSIA. Fake news!
Feb. 18, 2018 Trump tweet:
I never said Russia did not meddle in the election, I said “it may be Russia, or China or another country or group, or it may be a 400 pound genius sitting in bed and playing with his computer.” The Russian “hoax” was that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia - it never did!
So, in summation, we can clearly see in hindsight that Putin had motive in wanting a foreign policy change that would get rid of the sanctions for invading Crimea imposed during the Obama administration. We see that Trump had voiced being open to that. We see that Trump first claimed, that the DNC was not hacked by Russia, but by the DNC itself. We then see from an indictment that Trump was allegedly being told by Roger Stone that WikiLeaks will be releasing bad things about Hillary. And we know Trump loved the releases by Wikileaks even though he claimed the DNC hacked its own self to somehow hurt him. We then see Don junior saying that the Hillary campaign is making up lies about the Russians trying to hurt Hillary and help Trump win, even though he knows at the time that Russia is doing exactly that according to the emails that were released by the free press.
We also see Trump
after the election claiming that no one knows who hacked the DNC while simultaneously claiming that the suspicion that Russia was trying to help him win was a fake story made up by the Democrats as an excuse for losing, even though the story began spreading five months before the election was even lost.
And finally, after the election, we see Trump conveniently changing the meaning of "fake story" claiming that when he said, "Russian hoax", he was referring to "colluding" with Russia, not Russia meddling to help him win, which contradicted his earlier statement that it was a fake story (Hoax) that Russia was trying to help him win in the first place. For both instances, the facts show it was Trump who pushed the hoax narrative, not the Democrats.
The Mueller investigation also was called a "witch hunt" by Trump. The Mueller investigation looking into interference by Russia in the 2016 elections, was started by Rosenstein, a Republican, who took over after the Trump appointed AG Jeff Sessions recused himself. Rosenstein said that he turned to a Special Counsel because Trump had fired FBI director Comey and Trump had tried to get him to lie and say it was Rosenstein's own idea. None of this was started by the Democrats. There were two additional investigations conducted by the house and the senate both controlled by the Republicans. All three concluded that Russia was indeed trying to hurt Hillary, and Help Trump.
