hi all, my wife and I are currently raising personal support for a ministry we hope to work with soon. We have been accepted by the organisation and are just raising support. Most of my family are not Christians so we have tried to explain to them sensitively what we are doing. This was all going fine until the other day when my dad spoke with me to have a real go at me! That asking others for money is not something our family does, we cover our own costs and he wished me good luck but wanted nothing to do with it! We hadn't askd him to supprt us, but had included him on our newsletter. He was really angry and we are pretty taken aback by his response. Has anybody else experienced this kind of reaction before?
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Seed Planter
It's typical response from those who are "proud".
I remember a time when me and a friend tried to
help out another friend who had many children and two
of them didn't have their own bed (they slept on blankets.)
There was a yard sale in another part of town and so happen,
there were two beds for children and they were for free.
My friend who has a truck, went to the yard sale
and got those beds (complete beds w/mattresses enclosed in a protective liners and
headboards and footboards.)
My friend brought them over to our mutual friend's home, their two youngest
children (who didn't have beds were elated!)
These beds were very nice and they looked new!
We were just getting the beds unloaded when the father of the children arrived-- he
saw those beds and he flew into a rage about how his children didn't take hand-me-downs
and said how dare we bring other people's stuff to his home!
He went on and on about how we disrespected him etc.
The children burst into tears, they really wanted those beds and
pleaded with their dad to let them have them-- he said "NO!"
So me and my friend hurriedly reloaded the beds back on the truck and were donated
to charity.
When they moved a couple of years later, those same two children still didn't have beds...
I use to be their babysitter.
I also caused a stir when I bought their two and a half year old a pair of sneakers because
there are places where shoes are required....so I bought the shoes and took the child
into the petting zoo.
I never understood how the parents didn't lack anything, for they had lots of clothes, shoes
and while I worked for the parents they bought each other bikes, exercise equipment, various gifts etc. but the children, they had to "make do" with what little they had.
I remember a time when me and a friend tried to
help out another friend who had many children and two
of them didn't have their own bed (they slept on blankets.)
There was a yard sale in another part of town and so happen,
there were two beds for children and they were for free.
My friend who has a truck, went to the yard sale
and got those beds (complete beds w/mattresses enclosed in a protective liners and
headboards and footboards.)
My friend brought them over to our mutual friend's home, their two youngest
children (who didn't have beds were elated!)
These beds were very nice and they looked new!
We were just getting the beds unloaded when the father of the children arrived-- he
saw those beds and he flew into a rage about how his children didn't take hand-me-downs
and said how dare we bring other people's stuff to his home!
He went on and on about how we disrespected him etc.
The children burst into tears, they really wanted those beds and
pleaded with their dad to let them have them-- he said "NO!"
So me and my friend hurriedly reloaded the beds back on the truck and were donated
to charity.
When they moved a couple of years later, those same two children still didn't have beds...
I use to be their babysitter.
I also caused a stir when I bought their two and a half year old a pair of sneakers because
there are places where shoes are required....so I bought the shoes and took the child
into the petting zoo.
I never understood how the parents didn't lack anything, for they had lots of clothes, shoes
and while I worked for the parents they bought each other bikes, exercise equipment, various gifts etc. but the children, they had to "make do" with what little they had.
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If God wants you to do something He will provide whatever you need without you having to go begging for it. If God doesn't provide, then maybe you should get a job to save up what you need to do what you want to do.
An example of this is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson
God provided Pat Robertson with some heavy connections in politics to wealthy financiers.
An example of this is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson
God provided Pat Robertson with some heavy connections in politics to wealthy financiers.
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isn't this also the same Pat Robertson who said the Haiti earthquake was a blessing in disguise....not exactly an example I want to be following!
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Asking people for money is trying to impose your will on them. If it was God's will they would be offering you the money without you having to ask.
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Whats that got to with anything? just because he is in a position of influence doesn't mean he is using it well! Pat Robertson is a deeply controversial figure that only people on the far Christian right in the US identify with! I think you'll find the rest of the world don't really want anything to do with that particular brand of Christianity! There are also many organisations around the world that raise support. YWAM is a major example and I can tell you that most people at YWAM ask people for funds.
And by the way, you clearly never read my question properly. We have plenty of funds being donated and given to our ministry, I merely said that my dad had responded in a negative way to my newsletter! My newsletter simply said that we are raising support and never once have we asked him for money! Even if we had asked him he is perfectly entitled to say I can't help with this!
And by the way, you clearly never read my question properly. We have plenty of funds being donated and given to our ministry, I merely said that my dad had responded in a negative way to my newsletter! My newsletter simply said that we are raising support and never once have we asked him for money! Even if we had asked him he is perfectly entitled to say I can't help with this!
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A blessing in disguise - is an ironic situation where positive results or solutions can rise out of disastrous or negative circumstances. If a Friday 24-hour appeal appears on television to raise money for the children's hospital, it seems that the whole nation would love to donate whatever they afford to reach that multi-million dollar target, besides watching huge cheque displays from group organizations and businesses.
But when it comes to supporting a Christian ministry, it becomes extremely focused on the locality with surrounding neighboring suburbs that allow easy route access for those who travel by car. If going nationwide or internationally, then the internet is an excellent solution, especially those who have come a long way where success does not happen without it's challenges, such as the morning TV programs on Australian broadcast: Kenneth Copeland Ministries and Joyce Meyer Ministries.:
Your non-Christian family members might not be interested now through rumor, but if website information and newsletters, calendar events, charity organizations etc are displayed visually in writing and photo/video images then they might loosen their grip on their personal generosity, especially on large-screen internet-enabled smart TVs .;'*';.
Rev 21:2
But when it comes to supporting a Christian ministry, it becomes extremely focused on the locality with surrounding neighboring suburbs that allow easy route access for those who travel by car. If going nationwide or internationally, then the internet is an excellent solution, especially those who have come a long way where success does not happen without it's challenges, such as the morning TV programs on Australian broadcast: Kenneth Copeland Ministries and Joyce Meyer Ministries.:
Your non-Christian family members might not be interested now through rumor, but if website information and newsletters, calendar events, charity organizations etc are displayed visually in writing and photo/video images then they might loosen their grip on their personal generosity, especially on large-screen internet-enabled smart TVs .;'*';.
Rev 21:2
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Isnt pat Robertson also the guy who said the world was going to end in 1982 and that Hurricane Katrina happened in response to America's abortion policy..im sorry but this is a guy who has no credibility and is not taken seriously as a Christian leader by the majority of people who live on our planet!
Anyway, my real point has been hijacked and my first response was misread! Just answer the initial question! I did not come on here to talk about Pat Robertson!
Anyway, my real point has been hijacked and my first response was misread! Just answer the initial question! I did not come on here to talk about Pat Robertson!
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seeingeyes
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Your dad's reaction could be a catalyst to rethinking "the way things are done". Pray on it a bit, maybe your dad picked up on something that you didn't.
Or maybe your dad is angry that his kid started holding beliefs that he doesn't, and now is asking other people for money to spread the beliefs that he holds.
I guess you could just ask him for his reasoning.
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