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<blockquote data-quote="Sanoy" data-source="post: 73962813" data-attributes="member: 397693"><p>Your argument is thus stated.</p><p>1.So the soul can't interact with the world.</p><p>2.Therefore, it uses a brain as a means to interact with the world.</p><p>3.But a brain is a part of the world.</p><p>4.Therefore, a soul can't interact with a brain, because brains are part of the world, and souls can't interact with the world.</p><p></p><p>Your argument is circular Kylie. A brain is a part of the world, Premise 1 assumes the conclusion.</p><p></p><p>The "damage problem" is actually a problem only for materialism, because it's left <em>explained</em> why the music is poor on dualism, and left <em>unexplained</em> why the music continues to play at all on materialism (<a href="https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.1007/s13752-015-0219-x?shared_access_token=pt0aZ7mu0ie74idoP1QApfe4RwlQNchNByi7wbcMAY6O-42K1MUCAY9mLditBolxvJ0OcVY8fTlaNZ9xfCJS7iDay4AIJgZ100sr0CEVGR0AH8S8LAcT2V1zTgBxBaMJQO84XI-u8VlSGca8-AtZrA==" target="_blank">A</a>, <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17475053" target="_blank">B</a>, <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1511795" target="_blank">C</a> and much more). You will find that many of the "classic" materialist examples actually show the opposite of what they claim.</p><p></p><p>If A and B were identical I should not expect to see consciousness at all let alone qualia. I should observe nothing more than I do with a computer since both should be determined. This brings up something else, my computer is teleological and capable to it's end, why is your mass of matter capable in regards to truth acquisition Kylie?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sanoy, post: 73962813, member: 397693"] Your argument is thus stated. 1.So the soul can't interact with the world. 2.Therefore, it uses a brain as a means to interact with the world. 3.But a brain is a part of the world. 4.Therefore, a soul can't interact with a brain, because brains are part of the world, and souls can't interact with the world. Your argument is circular Kylie. A brain is a part of the world, Premise 1 assumes the conclusion. The "damage problem" is actually a problem only for materialism, because it's left [I]explained[/I] why the music is poor on dualism, and left [I]unexplained[/I] why the music continues to play at all on materialism ([URL='https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.1007/s13752-015-0219-x?shared_access_token=pt0aZ7mu0ie74idoP1QApfe4RwlQNchNByi7wbcMAY6O-42K1MUCAY9mLditBolxvJ0OcVY8fTlaNZ9xfCJS7iDay4AIJgZ100sr0CEVGR0AH8S8LAcT2V1zTgBxBaMJQO84XI-u8VlSGca8-AtZrA==']A[/URL], [URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17475053']B[/URL], [URL='https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1511795']C[/URL] and much more). You will find that many of the "classic" materialist examples actually show the opposite of what they claim. If A and B were identical I should not expect to see consciousness at all let alone qualia. I should observe nothing more than I do with a computer since both should be determined. This brings up something else, my computer is teleological and capable to it's end, why is your mass of matter capable in regards to truth acquisition Kylie? [/QUOTE]
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