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<blockquote data-quote="Soyeong" data-source="post: 75910295" data-attributes="member: 375022"><p>There wouldn't be many verses encouraging us to persevere or warning against falling away if that were not possible. There is nothing from the outside that can pluck us from the Father's hand and we can't loose our salvation on accident, but it is clear to me that people can choose to turn their back on God. I don't see any reason to think that someone can live in sin while having their salvation secure because they said a prayer. Our salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's law, so living in obedience to God's law is what it means to receive the gift of Jesus saving us from living in transgression of it. There can certainly be people who have such a poor understanding of salvation that they were never saved in spite of thinking that they have been saved, however, it seems disingenuous to me to suggest every person who falls away was never saved in the first place. In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, so that is what it means to be under grace, but yes, people can fall from grace by relying on works of the law instead of God's law.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Soyeong, post: 75910295, member: 375022"] There wouldn't be many verses encouraging us to persevere or warning against falling away if that were not possible. There is nothing from the outside that can pluck us from the Father's hand and we can't loose our salvation on accident, but it is clear to me that people can choose to turn their back on God. I don't see any reason to think that someone can live in sin while having their salvation secure because they said a prayer. Our salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's law, so living in obedience to God's law is what it means to receive the gift of Jesus saving us from living in transgression of it. There can certainly be people who have such a poor understanding of salvation that they were never saved in spite of thinking that they have been saved, however, it seems disingenuous to me to suggest every person who falls away was never saved in the first place. In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, so that is what it means to be under grace, but yes, people can fall from grace by relying on works of the law instead of God's law. [/QUOTE]
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