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<blockquote data-quote="Tellyontellyon" data-source="post: 75805283" data-attributes="member: 425478"><p>I listened to an online sermon and the preacher was talking about salvation.</p><p>Once you are saved that is it! You can't lose it.</p><p>If a person does lose it, then that means they were never really saved and therefore not truly Christian.</p><p></p><p>Why is that? It's like saying we have no choice either way? Where does this idea come from and is it an extreme position, over extrapolating some statement, or is this really how things are.</p><p></p><p>I found this statement from Paul that seems to suggest that Grace can be fallen away from... or am I misunderstanding?</p><p></p><p>Galatians 5:1-6</p><p>[1]It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.</p><p>[2]Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.</p><p>[3]Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.</p><p>[4]You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.</p><p>[5]For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope.</p><p>[6]For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.</p><p></p><p>Thank you</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tellyontellyon, post: 75805283, member: 425478"] I listened to an online sermon and the preacher was talking about salvation. Once you are saved that is it! You can't lose it. If a person does lose it, then that means they were never really saved and therefore not truly Christian. Why is that? It's like saying we have no choice either way? Where does this idea come from and is it an extreme position, over extrapolating some statement, or is this really how things are. I found this statement from Paul that seems to suggest that Grace can be fallen away from... or am I misunderstanding? Galatians 5:1-6 [1]It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. [2]Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. [3]Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. [4]You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. [5]For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. [6]For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Thank you [/QUOTE]
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