"fallen nature of Christ"?

[Amisk Dolcy]

What is meant by: What is meant by the "fallen nature of Christ"?

 

[sinning machine]

Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made

like unto his bretheren, that he might be a merciful

and faithful high priest in all things pertaining to God,

to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.


~xox~


For what the law could not do, in that it was weak

through the flesh, God sending His own Son in the

likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin

in the flesh:

Hebrews 2:17 & Romans 8:3

God took on our flesh and becoming Jesus the man overcame our sinful nature, Himself paying the price by becoming our propitiation through the faith in His blood, He being sent forth by The Father for the remission of our sins.

 

[Amisk Dolcy]

I don't see your comments as an answer to the question on the Fall nature of Christ. Are you really saying that Christ was a sinner such as the rest of us? If so how can He save us from our sin?

 

[sinning machine]

I don't see your comments as an answer to the question on the Fall nature of Christ. Are you really saying that Christ was a sinner such as the rest of us? If so how can He save us from our sin?

Its simple, Jesus Christ having being born in the flesh overcame the sinful nature of it by not sinning,

Jesus Christ was the only man past present and future who lived a life free of sin.

This "fall" word is where you are getting confused, think of it like this, God clothed Himself with the sinful nature of His creation walked a life free of sin and then became our sacrifice for our sins, He being without spot.

 

[Leuko Petra]

What is meant by: What is meant by the "fallen nature of Christ"?

This, that Jesus became of the same flesh that we partake, that He might be of "one flesh", even the Head of the Body, the Husband of the Bride...

For consideration purposes.

LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH

The lineage of Jesus given in both Matthew [Matthew 1:1-18; "son of David, the son of Abraham"] and Luke [Luke 3:23-38; "[son of] Adam", etc] is easily seen in the lives and history of Jesus' ancestors, of which He Himself inherited of their fleshly nature when He was made of a woman.

Jesus has for flesh and blood ancestors, murderers, thieves, harlots, idolators, etc, but none of that makes Him as such [a sinner], but He did and does inherit the flesh and blood, fallen flesh nature, like as we. For He was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin, and His temptations were far greater [not less].

How many sons of Adam were born from Adam after His sin? All of them, including all of us here, and also Jesus, being born of Mary [Matthew 1:16], who was of the line, the seed according to the flesh, of David.

David acknowledges his heritage in the Psalms, and Jesus is called the "son of David", and also the "son of Abraham". Did they have sinful flesh? Were they born after Adam's fall? Yes.

To be born with sinful flesh is not to be born a transgressor/sinner. The scripture teaches that to [commit] sin [of comission or omission] is to be a transgressor [of the Law], not simply being born with sinful flesh.

If all will go with me to other scriptures please, where it describes this "flesh" [sarx]:

"And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us..." [John 1:14]

"GOD manifest in the flesh" [1 Timothy 3:16],

"the LORD from Heaven" [1 Corinthians 15:47],

"made of a woman" [Galatians 4:4],

"made of the seed of David according to the flesh" [Romans 1:3],

"...to every seed his own body..." [1 Corinthians 15:38],

"...of the fruit of his [David's] loins, according to the flesh..." [Acts 2:30]

of the "seed of Abraham" [Hebrews 2:16],

even "as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same" [Hebrews 2:14] [what flesh are we born with, that He partook of then, what blood?]

and "in all things it behoved him to be made like unto [his] brethren" [Hebrews 2:17],

that we might have "...known Christ after the flesh..." [2 Corinthians 5:16],

and scripture giving us the family line and genealogy of that very flesh [sarx] and blood nature He took upon Himself [Matthew 1:1-25; Luke 3:23-38]

the "[the son] of Adam" [Luke 3:38]

as it is said, "made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men" [Philippians 2:7], [word "servant" is actually "slave", this makes a difference in the matter of the fleshly nature]

and "...in the days of His flesh..." [Hebrews 5:7],

"was in all points tempted like as [we are yet] without sin" [Hebrews 4:15],

and in His death it is written, "...my flesh shall rest in hope..." [Acts 2:26], and

"...his [being/person] was not left in the grave, neither his flesh did see corruption..." [Acts 2:31] because He was/is...

"holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners" [Hebrews 7:26]

that "holy thing" [Luke 1:35]

and "holy child" [Acts 4:27,30]

born of the "Holy Ghost" [Matthew 1:18; Luke 1:35],

where even though He came in the likeness [Romans 8:3; Philippians 2:7; etc] of sinful flesh, yet He was without sin:

"...lamb shall be without blemish..." [Exodus 12:5]

"...the innocent blood..." [Matthew 27:4]

"...lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him." [Luke 23:15]

"...this man hath done nothing amiss." [Luke 23:41]

"...I have kept my Father's commandments..." [John 15:10]

"...I find in him no fault [at all]." [John 18:38]

"...I find no fault in him." [John 19:4]

"...I find no fault in him." [John 19:6]

"...the obedience of one..." [Romans 5:19]

"...who knew no sin..." [2 Corinthians 5:21]

"...without sin." [Hebrews 4:15]

"...[who is] holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners..." [Hebrews 7:26]

"Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:" [1 Peter 2:22]

"...in him is no sin." [1 John 3:5]

"How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God..." [Hebrews 9:4;p]

...and thereby, in the same likeness of sinful flesh as we, yet living without sin, never having sinned, never once transgressed the Holy Law of God; Jesus showed that with God there is no excuse for sin and thus "...condemned sin in the flesh." [Romans 8:3];


"...having crucified the flesh..." [Galatians 5:24]


and "...nailing it to His cross." [Colossians 2:4],


"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh..." [1 Peter 4:1];


even "...being put to death in the flesh..." [1 Peter 3:18],


and we are to be "...crucified with Christ..." [Galatians 5:24],


"In the body of His flesh through death..." [Colossians 1:22],


become dead to the penalty of the Law, the 2nd Death, "...by the body of Christ..." [Romans 7:4],


that we might be "...members of His body, and of His flesh, and of His bones." [Ephesians 5:30],


by a "...new and living way, which He hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, His flesh;" [Hebrews 10:20]


so that we may know this, "...Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." [Romans 6:6]

"Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:" [Hebrews 10:5]

"Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." [1 Peter 2:24]

"By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all]." [Hebrews 10:10]

Therefore, we have this hope, "Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself." [Philippians 3:21]

Therefore, it is very important to understand with what flesh Jesus came, not only to the Everlasting Gospel [Genesis 3:15; Revelation 14:6-7, etc], and how Christ Jesus is to save us from sin [Matthew 1:21; not in it] and to redeem us unto God, it is written,


"Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:" [1 John 4:2]

What flesh is John speaking about? The very likeness of sinful flesh we have, of the race of Adam, for he says, "...our hands have handled, of the Word of life." [1 John 1:1]

And it is written of those which refuse this, "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." [1 John 4:3]

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." [2 John 1:7]

And who teaches that Jesus did not come in that sinful flesh?


ROME, that Mother of Harlots, through its Immaculate Conception of Mary Dogma...

...and also her daughters [Apostate Protestantism], which does not teach the immaculate conception, but removes from Jesus that flesh nonetheless, even as do the Jehovah's Witnesses [etc] do...

...there are many "...not discerning the Lord's body." [1 Corinthians 11:29]

Please read Romans 5 carefully and prayerfully, and especially see Romans 5:19 and read it several times and come to understand what it is powerfully saying, along with all the places in Revelation which speaks about over coming, even as He overcame in the flesh.

Then one might consider -

Restoration...Dennis Priebe - YouTube

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