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If we read the scripture more closely, it states we will be "like the angels " who do not marry..It says they don't marry. It doesn't say they can't./QUOTE]
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Still doesn't say they can't. Obviously they are not supposed to and that is the problem in Genesis 6.If we read the scripture more closely, it states we will be "like the angels " who do not marry.
“For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.” (Matt. 22:23–30.)
Still doesn't say they can't. Obviously they are not supposed to and that is the problem in Genesis 6.
So the angels suddenly became human and can procreate? This is not stated anywhere in scripture. But like I said there are a few interpretations, I am just sharing one of them.Still doesn't say they can't. Obviously they are not supposed to and that is the problem in Genesis 6.
So the angels suddenly became human and can procreate? This is not stated anywhere in scripture. But like I said there are a few interpretations, I am just sharing one of them.
Correct, no physical form. The sons of God were not angels who married women then gave birth to nephilim.I think the way demons are described, it's unlikely fallen angels would have any kind of physical form. How else could they possess and be cast out and transfer from a person into a herd of swine?
But they could take on physical form, and in this case they took on human form.Correct, no physical form. The sons of God were not angels who married women then gave birth to nephilim.
Marriage is an economic, emotional, physical union and one designed for procreation (as in having children).So the angels suddenly became human and can procreate? This is not stated anywhere in scripture. But like I said there are a few interpretations, I am just sharing one of them.
We really don't know what fallen angels can and cannot do. We're not given much information on itI think the way demons are described, it's unlikely fallen angels would have any kind of physical form. How else could they possess and be cast out and transfer from a person into a herd of swine?
We really don't know what fallen angels can and cannot do. We're not given much information on it
Demons, aka fallen angels, did not take physical form. Messengers, aka angels, from God came in temporary human form to deliver messages. Blessings.But they could take on physical form, and in this case they took on human form.
And some say that demons are actually the spirits of the Nephilim and fallen angels are in another class. Like you say speculationTrue. Much of this is purely speculation. However, fallen angels and demons seem synonymous, and the Bible seems to make it pretty clear that demons are wandering spirits looking for a physical body to inhabit. Then again, as far as angels go, Jacob physically wrestled with an angel. The again many speculate the angel was actually Jesus.
You don't know that, you are only assuming it.Demons, aka fallen angels, did not take physical form. Messengers, aka angels, from God came in temporary human form to deliver messages. Blessings.
Likewise. We are at a stalemate. I found this commentary helpful.You don't know that, you are only assuming it.
This may help.That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Okay so if the sons of God were humans just like the daughters of men, then why is there a distinction here? If the sons of God are human, then why wouldn't this passage read: "the sons of God saw the daughters of God that they were fair..."
I think the distinction is here for a reason, mainly to indicate that it was fallen Angel's, not descendants of humans @Maria Billingsley
But the fallen angels don't occupy heaven, they fell to earth. Which is why they are called fallen angels.
Genesis 6:5 Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown.LXX
Giants, before and after the flood. Some say that the sin in the garden of Eden, as taught by the dragon, was intercourse: hence the sudden desire for clothing. How else can one explain the seed of the woman versus the seed of the dragon/enchanter? The woman Eve was the mother of all humans. So, the sons of God would have been the dragon and his angels on Earth.
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Others say that Japheth was the Titan Iapetus... similarity of names?
Titans & Titanesses | Theoi Greek Mythology
After them, came the Giants of Pelasgian Legend.
Giants | Theoi Greek Mythology
The personification of Heaven and Earth... obvious poetic license.
Seas give birth to rivers... also poetic license.
Zeus made sweet love... the evangelization of Crete, etc.
Everything in your post is interesting, except I don't think intercourse was the sin taught by the devil because God told Adam & Eve to multiply before the snake tempted Eve.
So your premise is demons can not materialize. Perhaps. But what what is being argued here is can angels materialize, ie before they fell, and the answer is yes.Likewise. We are at a stalemate. I found this commentary helpful.
Thanks for engaging!
Can Demons Materialize in Human or Animal Form?
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Okay so if the sons of God were humans just like the daughters of men, then why is there a distinction here? If the sons of God are human, then why wouldn't this passage read: "the sons of God saw the daughters of God that they were fair..."
I think the distinction is here for a reason, mainly to indicate that it was fallen Angel's, not descendants of humans @Maria Billingsley
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