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Over 100 published science journal articles just gibberish | Fox News

This will go over well :D

Some 120 papers published in established scientific journals over the last few years have been found to be frauds, created by nothing more than an automated word generator that puts random, fancy-sounding words together in plausible sentence structures. As a result they have been pulled from the journals that originally published them.

Time for an update in Peer Review ?
"They all should have been evaluated by a peer-review process. I've no explanation for them being here. I guess each of them needs an investigation," he said.

The publishers also could not explain it, admitting that the papers “are all nonsense.”
 

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All this person has shown is that there are many "peer reviewed journals" that are not really peer reviewed. There is a wide publication of what is today known as the "vanity press". People in offshoots of science that cannot get their papers published in respected peer review go to sites that will publish almost anything.

That is why I have had to change my demand when it comes to papers supporting the Electric Universe. There are enough of these "peer reviewed journal' out there that any kook can support his belief by getting the stamp of "peer review" if he shops enough journals.

The fact that there are very poor journals out there does not mean that there are not valid journals that still exist. If you get an article published in a well respected peer reviewed journal you have still made a mark in the world of science.
 
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For the Christians out there:

There have been many bogus Christian sects. Some of them quite violent. Because those various sects were wrong does it mean that all of Christianity is wrong?

Now personally I do think so, but I would not use the bogus argument of pointing towards sects like that of Jim Jones or Charles Manson to try to debunk Christianity. In the same way false science and false journals do not debunk the scientific method.
 
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Two publishers, one responsible for over 100 of the 120. Hardly the death of science, though it might raise the question on how many actual readers the IEEE journals in question actually have if no one flagged this.
 
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Two publishers, one responsible for over 100 of the 120. Hardly the death of science, though it might raise the question on how many actual readers the IEEE journals in question actually have if no one flagged this.

Wait just a second!

Did you say IEEE journals? Aren't those the journals that publish so many of the articles friendly to the Electric Universe?
 
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Subduction Zone said:
Wait just a second! Did you say IEEE journals? Aren't those the journals that publish so many of the articles friendly to the Electric Universe?
havent the foggiest. But they published more than 100 of the 120.
 
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No big deal.

If people are able to fake, it is their achievement. The reviewing process just have to catch up a little bit.

Content-wise, those faked papers will have zero effect.

Sadly, no, they can cause a great deal of damage. You know that scare about vaccines causing autism? Fueled by a fake paper, and yet people even after it was shown that the author of the paper never actually performed the study and primarily cited themselves still believe it an let their kids get sick pointlessly because they honestly think a kid is going to get autism from that. As it happens, early childhood severe illness can cause a variety of mental disorders, so this paper encouraged people to do the exact opposite of what would protect their children, and their neighbors for that matter. the more people immunized, the less likely an illness is going to spread to an area with vulnerable people.
 
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Many physicists would agree that, had it not been for congestion control, the evaluation of web browsers might never have occurred. In fact, few hackers worldwide would disagree with the essential unification of voice-over-IP and publicprivate key pair. In order to solve this riddle, we confirm that SMPs can be made stochastic, cacheable, and interposable.
 
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Many physicists would agree that, had it not been for congestion control, the evaluation of web browsers might never have occurred. In fact, few hackers worldwide would disagree with the essential unification of voice-over-IP and publicprivate key pair. In order to solve this riddle, we confirm that SMPs can be made stochastic, cacheable, and interposable.

Um, what is this supposed to be getting at exactly? Threadkiller indeed, most people would look at this and say "I'm done".
 
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Um, what is this supposed to be getting at exactly? Threadkiller indeed, most people would look at this and say "I'm done".

This is the abstract of one such fake paper. It's meaningless gibberish.
 
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So the EU stuff is all from unreliable sources, huh?

Even if your article is legitimate and contains good science, its credibility is wrecked if it's published in the same journal that publishes gibberish. It shows that there is no real peer review of the journal, or that any peer review that they do is insufficient to catch a meaningless gibberish article.
 
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That is why I have had to change my demand when it comes to papers supporting the Electric Universe. There are enough of these "peer reviewed journal' out there that any kook can support his belief by getting the stamp of "peer review" if he shops enough journals.

Huh? Why pick out *one* scientific theory out of thin air like that?

I guess you're in denial of the fact that neither of the first two papers I handed you were published in an IEEE journal. :(

You're already off on a wild goose chase I see. Smear by association even when neither I paper I handed you was even directly related to the incident in question? Why not just start with circuit theory since undoubtedly that too has been described in an IEEE journal? What's up with that irrational behavior anyway?
 
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Springer statement on SCIgen-generated papers in conference proceedings

By your logic SZ, the whole of computer science and engineering has now been called into question. :)
No. The conferences and journals and the specific articles related to them are called into question.

SCIgen papers are all computer science papers, so it would be odd if it generated a paper on literary criticism or cosmology.

Stuff like this damages the reputation of the publisher, the reputation of the article, and the reputation of the authors.
 
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No. The conferences and journals and the specific articles related to them are called into question.

SCIgen papers are all computer science papers, so it would be odd if it generated a paper on literary criticism or cosmology.

Stuff like this damages the reputation of the publisher, the reputation of the article, and the reputation of the authors.

Well, I certainly agree with you on those points, I just don't see how it's related to any specific scientific theory.
 
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