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<blockquote data-quote="Serving Zion" data-source="post: 71213611" data-attributes="member: 387004"><p>I would like to really dig into this with you and treat this seriously, so that you can understand the reason for these things and then you will know how you are able to act in support of God. It is really important to realise that God is spirit, and He speaks to us in a spiritual way. He does have command of physics, so it is possible that He can be a booming voice in the sky. But, His desire is for us to recognise Christ in each other and to treat each other accordingly. In this way, when we come to receive Him, we find that we have a relationship with Him in the people we meet. But in order for us to receive Him, we need to be of good conscience, because He is light. God's presence as The Holy Spirit always brings to our conscious awareness, the things we have not been forgiven. (It makes me wonder whether those words had that effect just now).</p><p></p><p>.. Anyhow, seeing as children are so obedient and well-intentioned, they have this effect of stinging the conscience of grown-ups. You know how they say that misery loves company? Well, a grown up who is already stressed out and whose child is behaving so joyfully adding to that stress.. the grown up maybe falters into anger and knocks the life out of the child. One day the child discovers the power of independence and becomes one of those grown ups, not needing to be obedient and having no respect for his parent's wisdom because of resentment; he learns to conceal his sinfulness with deceit so as to do those things that his parents never allowed him to do. This is natural for all of us, albeit some more than others. Then before we know it, we are afraid of the full truth because it threatens to expose things that we rather would not like to have exposed (Genesis 3:10-11). So just as Adam and Eve did, we hide from God.</p><p></p><p>Jesus said that we will never see the Kingdom of God unless we turn around to become again as a little child (thereby accepting that we cannot cover our ways with deceit, but just as a child knows that their mother has eyes in the back of her head, so we know that God is always watching us). This is also what is meant by "circumcising the heart" - that is an illustrative way of saying that we become clean in thought, word and deed so that never do we flinch at the truth and have to hide the true nature of our heart. Then we are comfortable with the conviction that comes <a href="http://www.adonai-reigns.life/booklets/the-gospel#holy-spirit" target="_blank">whenever The Holy Spirit speaks to us</a>.</p><p></p><p>Now the other side of this, is that when we run away from God and begin to cover our ways with deceit, it becomes a trap for us that we keep testing the boundaries and we become more and more of the monster. Some people who do mean things to children for instance, have decided to believe that nobody will find out about it - or - that if somebody does find out about it, then nobody will act upon it (perhaps for fear).</p><p></p><p>If we can look at some specific examples case-by-case, then I'm confident that you will come to see how God is vindicated. My goal is to convince you to trust Him and to form a relationship with Him, to recognise that He has invited you to pursue that relationship, so that through your action you can take the mantle of His power wherever you go and use His name to succeed in whatever you do to His glory (John 14:12-17). Don't concern yourself with all the rest about heaven and hell for now, because if you seek first His kingdom and Righteousness, then everything else that you need will be added unto you (Matthew 6:33-34).</p><p></p><p>Edit: oh, oops.. I mean welcome! Yes these discussions should be categorised to an appropriate sub-forum, my mistake! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> See you there! <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/wave.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wave:" title="wave :wave:" data-shortname=":wave:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Serving Zion, post: 71213611, member: 387004"] I would like to really dig into this with you and treat this seriously, so that you can understand the reason for these things and then you will know how you are able to act in support of God. It is really important to realise that God is spirit, and He speaks to us in a spiritual way. He does have command of physics, so it is possible that He can be a booming voice in the sky. But, His desire is for us to recognise Christ in each other and to treat each other accordingly. In this way, when we come to receive Him, we find that we have a relationship with Him in the people we meet. But in order for us to receive Him, we need to be of good conscience, because He is light. God's presence as The Holy Spirit always brings to our conscious awareness, the things we have not been forgiven. (It makes me wonder whether those words had that effect just now). .. Anyhow, seeing as children are so obedient and well-intentioned, they have this effect of stinging the conscience of grown-ups. You know how they say that misery loves company? Well, a grown up who is already stressed out and whose child is behaving so joyfully adding to that stress.. the grown up maybe falters into anger and knocks the life out of the child. One day the child discovers the power of independence and becomes one of those grown ups, not needing to be obedient and having no respect for his parent's wisdom because of resentment; he learns to conceal his sinfulness with deceit so as to do those things that his parents never allowed him to do. This is natural for all of us, albeit some more than others. Then before we know it, we are afraid of the full truth because it threatens to expose things that we rather would not like to have exposed (Genesis 3:10-11). So just as Adam and Eve did, we hide from God. Jesus said that we will never see the Kingdom of God unless we turn around to become again as a little child (thereby accepting that we cannot cover our ways with deceit, but just as a child knows that their mother has eyes in the back of her head, so we know that God is always watching us). This is also what is meant by "circumcising the heart" - that is an illustrative way of saying that we become clean in thought, word and deed so that never do we flinch at the truth and have to hide the true nature of our heart. Then we are comfortable with the conviction that comes [URL='http://www.adonai-reigns.life/booklets/the-gospel#holy-spirit']whenever The Holy Spirit speaks to us[/URL]. Now the other side of this, is that when we run away from God and begin to cover our ways with deceit, it becomes a trap for us that we keep testing the boundaries and we become more and more of the monster. Some people who do mean things to children for instance, have decided to believe that nobody will find out about it - or - that if somebody does find out about it, then nobody will act upon it (perhaps for fear). If we can look at some specific examples case-by-case, then I'm confident that you will come to see how God is vindicated. My goal is to convince you to trust Him and to form a relationship with Him, to recognise that He has invited you to pursue that relationship, so that through your action you can take the mantle of His power wherever you go and use His name to succeed in whatever you do to His glory (John 14:12-17). Don't concern yourself with all the rest about heaven and hell for now, because if you seek first His kingdom and Righteousness, then everything else that you need will be added unto you (Matthew 6:33-34). Edit: oh, oops.. I mean welcome! Yes these discussions should be categorised to an appropriate sub-forum, my mistake! :D See you there! :wave: [/QUOTE]
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