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Andrew

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quote:"This is true GRaftMeIn, however, Solomon, in his own words decided he needed to understand things from a "human" point of view and not from God's.Ê So he deliberately, set out to do things opposite of what God instructed and found that everything he learned as such, was vanity."

AMEN Quaffie. You've rightly divided the Word. ;)
 
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I believe that what they are saying is that the book has great value in showing the extent of mans wisdom but how it will never measure up to God's. And that relying in it will produce distruction. But the book is not God's wisdom and there for the ideas presented in the book should not be taken for His wisdom.
 
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While it is true that God's wisdom does shine forth from the book win taken as a whole and even from whole sections, when little snips, verses or just one little section is taken from the book then the wisdom of God is lost in favor of mans wisdom as he tryes to prove part of his doctrine.

Like the gospel of John, there is a distinct message from God that can only be seen when the book is looked at as a whole. But unlike John, specific scripture can not be removed to show one of God's truths because it just comes of as folly.
 
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Originally posted by GraftMeIn
Quaffer,
I wouldn't rely on the Ampliphied version of the Bible. Here's how that scripture reads in a few other versions, no where does it mention human wisdom.

Actually GraftMeIn, the Amplified is "one" of the most reliable Bibles in print. However, it will not debate that with anyone.  It would be pointless.

In the preface of the Amplified it reads:

"From the days of John Wycliffe (1329-1384) and the first English Bible to present, translators hadve worked diligently on English versions designed to faithfully present the Scriptures in contemporary language. The Amplifeid Bible is not an attempt to duplicate what has already been achieved, nor is it intended to be a substitute for other translations. It's genius lies in its rigorous attempt to go beyond the traditional "word-for-word" concept of translation to bring out the richness of thte Hebrew and Greek languages. Its purpose is to reveal, together with the single English word equivalent to each key Hebrew and Greek word, any other clarifying meanings that may be concealed by the traditional translation method. Perhaps for the first time in an English version of the Bible, the full meaning of the key words in the original text is available for the reader. In a sense, the creative use of amplification merely
helps the reader comprehend what the Hebrew and Greek listener instinctively understood as a matter of course."

If you go to Strong's Concordance, verse 13. . .

Original word: HMKX 

Definition:

1. wisdom a) skill (in war), b) wisdom (in administration), c) shrewdness, wisdom, d) wisdom, prudence (in religious affairs), e) wisdom (ethical and religious)

As you can see, none of them in this usage of the word "wisdom", is the Wisdom of God.  The Amplified merely saves the reader the time in looking it up in the Strong's, etc. and does supply the proper meaning. 


This is quite different in 1 Cor 1:24 where it says "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Geeks, Christ the power of God, and the Wisdom of God.  And Col 2:3  "In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Original Word: Sofiva

Definition: 1. wisdom, broad and full of intelligence; used of the knowledge of very diverse matters.

a. the wisdom which belongs to men 1. spec. the varied knowledge of things human and divine, acquired by acuteness and experience, and summed up in maxims and proverbs. 2. the science and learning. 3. the act of interpreting dreams and always giving the sagest advice. 4. the intelligence evinced in discovering the meaning of some mysterious number or vision. 5. skill in the management of affairs. 6. devout and proper prudence in intercourse with men not disciples of Christ, skill and discretion in imparting Christian truth. 7. the knowledge and practice of the requisites for godly and upright living.

b. supreme intelligence, such as belongs to God. 1. to Christ. 2. the wisdom of God as evinced in forming and executing counsels in the formation and govenment of the world and the scriptures.
 
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"Actually GraftMeIn, the Amplified is "one" of the most reliable Bibles in print. However, it will not debate that with anyone. It would be pointless. "

I very much disagree with that... the amplified is NOT one of the most reliable bibles, and that is why most theologians I know don't use one. They usually Stick to other versons.

Snup--I totally agree, that is why I made sure that verse 14 in chapter 7 was in context, and thus God's wisdom.
 
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