Fact Checking on the Walz Vance Debate

[Stephen3141]

Fact-checking Tim Walz and JD Vance's VP debate

The high-stakes, 90-minute debate was held at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City Tuesday.

abcnews.go.com

ABC doesn't go into a lot of points, to fact check.
Probably CNN will have a longer list of fact checking.

 

[HTacianas]

Fact-checking Tim Walz and JD Vance's VP debate

The high-stakes, 90-minute debate was held at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City Tuesday.

abcnews.go.com

ABC doesn't go into a lot of points, to fact check.
Probably CNN will have a longer list of fact checking.

What good does fact checking do if the fact checkers either don't understand the English linguae or are simply wrong in their fact checking?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I'd like to see a Walz - Vance ticket... and bipartisan cabinet.

 

[Yarddog]

What good does fact checking do if the fact checkers either don't understand the English linguae or are simply wrong in their fact checking?

That mostly doesn't happen but everyone is capable making mistakes. Fox News stopped their Fact Checkers from checking on Trump back in 2020. Hearing Fox revealing Trump's lies angered their audience and it was bad for business, so they ended the practice.

 

[HTacianas]

That mostly doesn't happen but everyone is capable making mistakes. Fox News stopped their Fact Checkers from checking on Trump back in 2020. Hearing Fox revealing Trump's lies angered their audience and it was bad for business, so they ended the practice.

That ,ay all be true. I don't know. But reading the article linked by the OP, the very first statement declared false by the fact checker was Vance saying:

"We've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country."

Now, for that statement to be false, the fact checker would have to say something along the lines of, "according to the Department of Homeland security there are only XX illegal aliens in the country", with XX being some number less than 20 million. But rather than that, the fact checker goes off on some long grotesque red herring about "encounters" and "got aways" and "admissions", none of which have anything to do with the statement made by Vance.

So, Vance claims that we have 20 to 25 million illegal aliens in the country. The fact checker does not tell us how many illegal aliens are in the country but declares the statement false. At that point I stopped reading the article.

 

[Yarddog]

That ,ay all be true. I don't know. But reading the article linked by the OP, the very first statement declared false by the fact checker was Vance saying:

"We've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country."

Now, for that statement to be false, the fact checker would have to say something along the lines of, "according to the Department of Homeland security there are only XX illegal aliens in the country", with XX being some number less than 20 million. But rather than that, the fact checker goes off on some long grotesque red herring about "encounters" and "got aways" and "admissions", none of which have anything to do with the statement made by Vance.

So, Vance claims that we have 20 to 25 million illegal aliens in the country. The fact checker does not tell us how many illegal aliens are in the country but declares the statement false. At that point I stopped reading the article.

Yes, they could have done a better job but it doesn't make them wrong a simple search shows that the DHLS estimates the number of undocumented aliens to be about 12 million or about half of what Vance said. The fact checker appears to trying to show how many have come during the Biden administration.