Face book friend posted this. So, how's he wrong?

BNR32FAN · Mar 8, 2020

martymonster said:
I'm sorry, but I don't see a single word in there talking about dooming the majority of humanity for all of eternity.

The point of that post was to indicate that we are responsible for our own fate and the contrast between those who repent, persevere and receive eternal life and those who don’t repent receive God’s wrath makes a pretty strong case.

hedrick · Mar 8, 2020

BNR32FAN said:
But only those who are unrepentant

I think this verse does make the point that we are the ones responsible for our own fate considering the contrast between eternal life and receiving God’s wrath.

Sort of. "God, who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS" God is the one that actually does the punishment.

Please remember what I was responding to. A common accusation is that eternal torment is not a reasonable punishment. One response is that God doesn't torment anyone, he just gives them what they want, which is to not be with him.

I'm not sure that's the argument you're making. You're saying that God's punishments are based on people's choice, but you're not denying that God is the one that torments them eternally, or at least arranges for them to be.

BNR32FAN · Mar 8, 2020

hedrick said:
Sort of. "God, who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS" God is the one that actually does the punishment.

Please remember what I was responding to. A common accusation is that eternal torment is not a reasonable punishment. One response is that God doesn't torment anyone, he just gives them what they want, which is to not be with him.

I'm not sure that's the argument you're making. You're saying that God's punishments are based on people's choice, but you're not denying that God is the one that torments them eternally, or at least arranges for them to be.

Yes I apologize I didn’t see the post you were replying to. I do believe in eternal torment for unbelievers. As for the question is eternal punishment reasonable we would have to ask the question why is it necessary. Unfortunately we don’t know why God has deemed it to be this way but if we trust that He loves us and that He knows what is best for us then we should trust that there is a perfectly good explanation why He has deemed that the punishment must be eternal. He certainly doesn’t owe us any explanation.

CharismaticLady · Mar 8, 2020

hedrick said:
Right. But Rev uses these names as insults for people who said just what Paul said.

But it has nothing to do with Paul. They are all old testament characters. But in Paul's day there was a different issue of actual meat. In Acts 15 Paul was accused by Christian Judaizers that he was teaching against the laws of Moses to the Gentiles. The meeting concluded that these few laws should be given to Gentiles:

18 “Known to God from eternity are all His works. 19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.

Paul teaching about these things to Gentiles would not have been an accusation against him in any way.

The imagery in Revelation against Pergamos and Thyatira was about the sins those characters did and what they represented from the Old Testament and how they were being carried out in those church eras. And I've already told you what they were. What don't you agree with, or haven't you heard this before?

martymonster · Mar 9, 2020

BNR32FAN said:
The point of that post was to indicate that we are responsible for our own fate and the contrast between those who repent, persevere and receive eternal life and those who don’t repent receive God’s wrath makes a pretty strong case.

Do you have children? Cuz I hate to break it to you, but you are the one responsible for them.

Shrewd Manager · Mar 10, 2020

No no no MM. Your friend has failed to distinguish between the active and passive divine will. God merely abandons unbelievers and sinners to the hideous place of torment they've chosen, like politicians who go to Canberra. Jesus then then employs those keys to lock them down proper.

Can we do a meme with Jesus saying to the doomed, 'I go to prepare a place for you' while holding a flamethrower?

faroukfarouk · Mar 13, 2020

Aussie Pete said:
Obviously I do not agree with you. Just one Bible verse - there are others:
Hebrews 10
"28Anyone who rejected the Law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think one deserves to be punished who has trampled on the Son of God, profaned the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and insulted the Spirit of grace?…"

Mercy and grace are utterly undeserved. God is not obliged to save anyone. That He does is a testimony to His great love. But those who refuse Him in this life will have to live with the consequences in the next.

Hebrews is indeed a wholesome source of doctrine for edification, with Old Testament examples adding strongly to the direction of the teaching.

faroukfarouk · Mar 13, 2020

Kris Jordan said:
Hi FineLinen,

I'm not sure I'm understanding your point in relation to you quoting my post...

Not sure I understand his point either...

Aussie Pete · Mar 13, 2020

BNR32FAN said:
Yes I apologize I didn’t see the post you were replying to. I do believe in eternal torment for unbelievers. As for the question is eternal punishment reasonable we would have to ask the question why is it necessary. Unfortunately we don’t know why God has deemed it to be this way but if we trust that He loves us and that He knows what is best for us then we should trust that there is a perfectly good explanation why He has deemed that the punishment must be eternal. He certainly doesn’t owe us any explanation.

It seems to me that we miss a vital point when discussing the issue of unbelievers. They are dead in trespass and sin. Who would bring a dead person to their party? Who wants to have dead people as house guests? Who wants to adopt dead people into their family?

I do not believe the Lake of fire is physical. Our God is a consuming fire. Unbelievers will seek a place to hide from God's righteous anger.

Aussie Pete · Mar 13, 2020

Shrewd Manager said:
No no no MM. Your friend has failed to distinguish between the active and passive divine will. God merely abandons unbelievers and sinners to the hideous place of torment they've chosen, like politicians who go to Canberra. Jesus then then employs those keys to lock them down proper.

Can we do a meme with Jesus saying to the doomed, 'I go to prepare a place for you' while holding a flamethrower?

Mocking is not edifying. Whatever the exact fate of unbelievers, it is not a good place to be. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

Shrewd Manager · Mar 13, 2020

Aussie Pete said:
Mocking is not edifying. Whatever the exact fate of unbelievers, it is not a good place to be. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

There are exceptions. I'll use any and all methods to try to disabuse ppl of the satanic notion that God condemns or abandons unbelievers to eternal damnation. Why? Because it's a nasty slur against His holy name, His divine power, His plan, His sacrifices etc, and it enthrones a normative principle that wreaks destruction on human relationships (as history has amply shown) ie 'If you don't love me back then to hell with you!' Seven times seventy flavours of WRONG.

Aussie Pete · Mar 14, 2020

Shrewd Manager said:
There are exceptions. I'll use any and all methods to try to disabuse ppl of the satanic notion that God condemns or abandons unbelievers to eternal damnation. Why? Because it's a nasty slur against His holy name, His divine power, His plan, His sacrifices etc, and it enthrones a normative principle that wreaks destruction on human relationships (as history has amply shown) ie 'If you don't love me back then to hell with you!' Seven times seventy flavours of WRONG.

And if you are wrong? Telling the world that they don't have to worry, they'll make it i to heaven anyway? When the word of god clearly states the contrary? I do not believe in the fire, dungeons and demons depiction of hell. I do believe that the word of God states that man and God can only be reconciled in this life. It is surely a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

People love sin. It is them. It is as natural as breathing and only the power of the Holy Spirit can bring conviction. Then what? You tell them that there are no consequences? You tell them its all OK, that that it is pointless to be born again? Oh, it's so we can have a better life now. Rubbish. Try telling that to a potential Christian in Afghanistan. They put everything on the line for Christ. Oh, big deal. God just whitewashes the murderers and we all become one happy family? No way.

People are born dead. Apart from Christ, they remain dead. There is no second chance.

Shrewd Manager · Mar 14, 2020

Aussie Pete said:
And if you are wrong? Telling the world that they don't have to worry, they'll make it i to heaven anyway? When the word of god clearly states the contrary? I do not believe in the fire, dungeons and demons depiction of hell. I do believe that the word of God states that man and God can only be reconciled in this life. It is surely a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

People love sin. It is them. It is as natural as breathing and only the power of the Holy Spirit can bring conviction. Then what? You tell them that there are no consequences? You tell them its all OK, that that it is pointless to be born again? Oh, it's so we can have a better life now. Rubbish. Try telling that to a potential Christian in Afghanistan. They put everything on the line for Christ. Oh, big deal. God just whitewashes the murderers and we all become one happy family? No way.

People are born dead. Apart from Christ, they remain dead. There is no second chance.

Well, if my eschatology is cactus, so's my soteriology. The message I try to impress upon ppl when evangelising is (at least) that the work of the cross is God showing us that no matter how far the forces of evil (both within and without) can go to destroy, He will always go further to save. Now that message is fundamentally incompatible with a God who condemns to infinite exquisite punishment if you don't play by the rules.

God wins by converting His enemies into His friends. Even the hardest heart melts like wax in the divine presence. Cleansed and renewed, the repentance begins, the criminal is transformed and falls down before his victim begging forgiveness in all contrition. And then the healing process begins. It's not rocket surgery, it's Jesus' modus operandi throughout the Gospels.

Aussie Pete · Mar 14, 2020

Shrewd Manager said:
Well, if my eschatology is cactus, so's my soteriology. The message I try to impress upon ppl when evangelising is (at least) that the work of the cross is God showing us that no matter how far the forces of evil (both within and without) can go to destroy, He will always go further to save. Now that message is fundamentally incompatible with a God who condemns to infinite exquisite punishment if you don't play by the rules.

God wins by converting His enemies into His friends. Even the hardest heart melts like wax in the divine presence. Cleansed and renewed, the repentance begins, the criminal is transformed and falls down before his victim begging forgiveness in all contrition. And then the healing process begins. It's not rocket surgery, it's Jesus' modus operandi throughout the Gospels.

How come it does not work in reality? There were two thieves next to Jesus. One mocked, the other repented. You don't get much closer to God than those two.

Shrewd Manager · Mar 14, 2020

Aussie Pete said:
How come it does not work in reality? There were two thieves next to Jesus. One mocked, the other repented. You don't get much closer to God than those two.

Idk if the 'good thief' repented per se. He displayed compassion and faith in Christ.

Do you say the other thief inherits eternal conscious torment? I don't see that in the scriptures. I believe he'll get saved, but at that time he still lacked the faith needed to be rewarded. He's spiritually dead (and nearly physically dead too!) and needs working on, so he can learn the error of his ways, bow the knee and confess the Lordship of Christ.

ColoRaydo · Mar 14, 2020

Earthly example:

You are invited to a dinner party hosted by the person on earth with whom you have absolutely no desire to be with. You don’t want to hear what he has say. You don’t want to spend any time with him. You have avoided him your entire life and you don’t even like the people who like him. No matter how good the food and wines are supposed to be, it’s him you detest. Would you still go? Would it be fair if he forced or tricked you into going? Would that be just? Would you even enjoy yourself (with all that good food and wine) if he were there?

I don’t think so.

I don’t believe anyone who rejects God their entire life will have a change in attitude after death. Hell, in whatever form it will be, may bring misery but it won’t bring love for God.

By the way, I used that example because I was forced to attend such a dinner once. The food and drinks might have been good but I don’t remember because I didn’t want to be there for all of the reasons I listed above.

Shrewd Manager · Mar 14, 2020

ColoRaydo said:
Earthly example:

You are invited to a dinner party hosted by the person on earth with whom you have absolutely no desire to be with. You don’t want to hear what he has say. You don’t want to spend any time with him. You have avoided him your entire life and you don’t even like the people who like him. No matter how good the food and wines are supposed to be, it’s him you detest. Would you still go? Would it be fair if he forced or tricked you into going? Would that be just? Would you even enjoy yourself (with all that good food and wine) if he were there?

I don’t think so.

I don’t believe anyone who rejects God their entire life will have a change in attitude after death. Hell, in whatever form it will be, may bring misery but it won’t bring love for God.

By the way, I used that example because I was forced to attend such a dinner once. The food and drinks might have been good but I don’t remember because I didn’t want to be there for all of the reasons I listed above.

Sure, they can remain outside the party continuing to be vile etc. While the doors are open, the invite to come in stands (just wash up first pls) and ppl keep coming out to invite them in, because the wine is life itself.

Standing outside like a petulant child...kicking around...time passes...party still going off...come in come in it's great...someone on the street hassles you for small change, get into a fight...wait around again...someone comes out and offers to bandage your nose...invites you in again...and so on. The resolve eventually breaks down, and the hard heart begins to soften and then - Apocalypse!

God's grace and kindness eventually overcome all false opposition. The prodigal son returns, the demons submit, every knee bows every tongue confesses. His salvation is the omega plan.

Der Alte · Apr 8, 2020

Shrewd Manager said:
....God's grace and kindness eventually overcome all false opposition. The prodigal son returns, the demons submit, every knee bows every tongue confesses. His salvation is the omega plan.

Scripture does NOT say that all will bow "in reverent love for their Maker." etc.
Exomolgeo occurs eleven times in the NT, in addition to Phil 2:11. In the other 10 it never means “whole-heartedly… without reservation (no holding back).etc”

Matthew 3:6 “confessing their sins,” Matthew 11:25 “thank,” Mark 1:5 “confessing their sins,” Luke 10:21 “thank,” Luke 22:6 “promised,” Acts of the apostles 19:18 “confessed their deeds,” Romans 14:11 “confess,” Romans 15:9 “confess Christ,” James 5:16 “confess your faults,” Revelation 3:5 “confess his name”

It never means whole-heartedly etc.
…..Scripture does say that every knee will bow but only believers will do so willingly in love and faith, the others will be conquered enemies.
How will the enemies of Jesus feel?

Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, * Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
* "That day" -the day of judgement.

There ain’t no second chance for salvation after judgment and “depart from me.”
The word of God says every knee will bow. It must be important because it is repeated three times.

[1.] Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
[2.] Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
[3.] Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

But the "fearful, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, whoremongers, sorcerers, idolaters, liars" etc. who denied God and Christ all their lives will be forced to their knees and forced to proclaim that Jesus is Lord. This is another important point it is recorded seven times in scripture.

[1.] Psalms 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
[2.] Matthew 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
[3.] Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
[4.] Luke 20:42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Luke 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
[5.] Acts of the apostles 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
[6.] Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
[7.] Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;.
Hebrews 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

…..What does “make your enemies your footstool” mean? Joshua shows us in Josh. 10.

Joshua 10:17 And it was told Joshua, saying, The five kings are found hid in a cave at Makkedah….
Joshua 10:22 Then said Joshua, Open the mouth of the cave, and bring out those five kings unto me out of the cave.
Joshua 10:23 And they did so, and brought forth those five kings unto him out of the cave, the king of Jerusalem, the king of Hebron, the king of Jarmuth, the king of Lachish, and the king of Eglon.
Joshua 10:24 And it came to pass, when they brought out those kings unto Joshua, that Joshua called for all the men of Israel, and said unto the captains of the men of war which went with him, Come near, put your feet upon the necks of these kings. And they came near, and put their feet upon the necks of them.
…
Joshua 10:26 And afterward Joshua smote them, and slew them, and hanged them on five trees: and they were hanging upon the trees until the evening.

The enemies of Joshua do not become loyal members of his Army, after they became his footstool.

hedrick · Apr 8, 2020

The word "confess" does have some ambiguity. TDNT cites Rom 15:7-13, where 15:9 is clearly a positive meaning of confession. I would cite 1 Cor 15:24-28, where everyone is subject to Christ in the same sense that Christ is subject to God. The enemies have been disposed of before that.

I don't think citing non-Pauline sources is all that helpful in determining Paul's meaning, since there is a variety of concepts of judgement in the NT.

The other two uses of ἐξομολογέω in Paul are Rom 14:11 and 15:9, both of which are clearly positive.

Der Alte · Apr 8, 2020

hedrick said:
The word "confess" does have some ambiguity. TDNT cites Rom 15:7-13, where 15:9 is clearly a positive meaning of confession. I would cite 1 Cor 15:24-28, where everyone is subject to Christ in the same sense that Christ is subject to God. The enemies have been disposed of before that.
I don't think citing non-Pauline sources is all that helpful in determining Paul's meaning, since there is a variety of concepts of judgement in the NT.
The other two uses of ἐξομολογέω in Paul are Rom 14:11 and 15:9, both of which are clearly positive.

The question is not whether "exomolegeo" is positive or not. The usual UR argument claims that "exomolegeo' means "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back)."
My pushback is that yes every knee will bow and every tongue will confess, the faithful in love and faith the unrighteous will be conquered enemies, Jesus' footstool.
Here is the correct definition of exomolegeo from BDAG. The 50+ historical sources the authors consulted are highlighted in blue. Note, "whole-heartedly" is not part of the definition.
"Exomolegeo" occurs eleven times in the NT. 8 times it is translated "confess." It never means "whole-heartedly."

ἐξομολογέω (s. next entry and ὁμολογέω) 1 aor. ἐξωμολόγησα; fut. mid. ἐξομολογήσομαι; aor. mid. ἐξωμολογησάμην LXX (quotable since III B.C.—Mitt-Wilck. II/2, 20, 18; 37, 17—PHib 30, 18 [300–271 B.C.]; also LXX, pseudepigr., Philo, Joseph.).
① to indicate acceptance of an offer or proposal, promise, consent, act., abs. Lk 22:6 (the act. is found as rarely [perh. Alex. Aphr., An. Mant. II 1 p. 168, 15] as the pass. [perh. SIG 685, 95]).
② to make an admission of wrong-doing/sin, confess, admit, mid. (Plut., Eum. 594 [17, 7], Anton. 943 [59, 3] τ. ἀλήθειαν, Stoic. Repugn. 17 p. 1042a; Sus 14; Jos., Bell. 1, 625, Ant. 8, 256) τὶ someth. (POslo 17, 14 [136 A.D.] τὸ ἀληθές; Cyranides p. 100, 18 πάντα ὅσα ἔπραξεν; Orig., C. Cels. 2, 11, 30 τὸ ἡμαρτημένον) τὰς ἁμαρτίας (Jos., Ant. 8, 129; s. the ins in Steinleitner, nos. 13, 5; 23, 2; 24, 11; 25, 10) Mt 3:6; Mk 1:5 (cp. 1QS 1:24–26); Js 5:16 (s. PAlthaus, Zahn Festgabe 1928, 1ff); Hv 1, 1, 3; Hs 9, 23, 4. τὰς ἁ. τῷ κυρίῳ confess sins to the Lord Hv 3, 1, 5, cp. 6. τὰ παραπτώματα ἐν ἐκκλησίᾳ confess transgressions in the congregation D 4:14. περὶ τῶν παραπτωμάτων make a confession of transgressions 1 Cl 51:3. ἐπὶ τ. ἁμαρτίαις for sins B 19:12. Abs. make a confession of sins Ac 19:18; 2 Cl 8:3. W. dat. of the one to whom sins are confessed 1 Cl 52:1, 2 (w. similarity in form to Ps 7:18; 117:19 and sim. Ps passages, but not=praise because of 1 Cl 51:3 [s. 4 below]).—JSchnitzer, D. Beichte im Lichte d. Religionsgesch.: Ztschr. f. Völkerpsychol. 6, 1930, 94–105; RPettazzoni, La confessione dei Peccati II ’35.
③ to declare openly in acknowledgment, profess, acknowledge, mid. (PHib 30, s. above; POxy 1473, 9; Lucian, Herm. 75) w. ὅτι foll. Phil 2:11 (Is 45:23; s. 4 below).—Nägeli 67.
④ fr. the mngs. ‘confess’ and ‘profess’ there arose, as Rtzst., Erlösungsmyst. 252 shows, the more general sense to praise, in acknowledgment of divine beneficence and majesty (so mostly LXX; TestJob 40:2 πρὸς τὸν πατέρα ) w. dat. of the one praised (oft. LXX; TestSol 1:5; Philo, Leg. All. 1, 80) σοί (2 Km 22:50; 1 Ch 29:13; Ps 85:12; 117:28 al.; Did., Gen. 60, 20) Mt 11:25=Lk 10:21 (s. Norden, Agn. Th. 277–308; JWeiss, GHeinrici Festschr. 1914, 120ff; TArvedson, D. Mysterium Chr. [Mt 11:25–30] ’37; NWilliams, ET 51, ’40, 182–86; 215–20; AHunter, NTS 8, ’62, 241–49); Ro 15:9 (Ps 17:50); 1 Cl 26:2; 61:3; B 6:16 (cp. Ps 34:18). τῷ θεῷ (Tob 14:7; Philo, Leg. All. 2, 95) Ro 14:11 (Is 45:23); τῷ κυρίῳ (fr. Gen 29:35 on, oft. in LXX) 1 Cl 48:2 (Ps 117:19); Hm 10, 3, 2.—DELG s.v. ὁμός. M-M. EDNT. TW. Sv.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 351). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
① to indicate acceptance of an offer or proposal, promise, consent, act., abs. Lk 22:6 (the act. is found as rarely [perh. Alex. Aphr., An. Mant. II 1 p. 168, 15] as the pass. [perh. SIG 685, 95]).
② to make an admission of wrong-doing/sin, confess, admit, mid. (Plut., Eum. 594 [17, 7], Anton. 943 [59, 3] τ. ἀλήθειαν, Stoic. Repugn. 17 p. 1042a; Sus 14; Jos., Bell. 1, 625, Ant. 8, 256) τὶ someth. (POslo 17, 14 [136 A.D.] τὸ ἀληθές; Cyranides p. 100, 18 πάντα ὅσα ἔπραξεν; Orig., C. Cels. 2, 11, 30 τὸ ἡμαρτημένον) τὰς ἁμαρτίας (Jos., Ant. 8, 129; s. the ins in Steinleitner, nos. 13, 5; 23, 2; 24, 11; 25, 10) Mt 3:6; Mk 1:5 (cp. 1QS 1:24–26); Js 5:16 (s. PAlthaus, Zahn Festgabe 1928, 1ff); Hv 1, 1, 3; Hs 9, 23, 4. τὰς ἁ. τῷ κυρίῳ confess sins to the Lord Hv 3, 1, 5, cp. 6. τὰ παραπτώματα ἐν ἐκκλησίᾳ confess transgressions in the congregation D 4:14. περὶ τῶν παραπτωμάτων make a confession of transgressions 1 Cl 51:3. ἐπὶ τ. ἁμαρτίαις for sins B 19:12. Abs. make a confession of sins Ac 19:18; 2 Cl 8:3. W. dat. of the one to whom sins are confessed 1 Cl 52:1, 2 (w. similarity in form to Ps 7:18; 117:19 and sim. Ps passages, but not=praise because of 1 Cl 51:3 [s. 4 below]).—JSchnitzer, D. Beichte im Lichte d. Religionsgesch.: Ztschr. f. Völkerpsychol. 6, 1930, 94–105; RPettazzoni, La confessione dei Peccati II ’35.
③ to declare openly in acknowledgment, profess, acknowledge, mid. (PHib 30, s. above; POxy 1473, 9; Lucian, Herm. 75) w. ὅτι foll. Phil 2:11 (Is 45:23; s. 4 below).—Nägeli 67.
④ fr. the mngs. ‘confess’ and ‘profess’ there arose, as Rtzst., Erlösungsmyst. 252 shows, the more general sense to praise, in acknowledgment of divine beneficence and majesty (so mostly LXX; TestJob 40:2 πρὸς τὸν πατέρα ) w. dat. of the one praised (oft. LXX; TestSol 1:5; Philo, Leg. All. 1, 80) σοί (2 Km 22:50; 1 Ch 29:13; Ps 85:12; 117:28 al.; Did., Gen. 60, 20) Mt 11:25=Lk 10:21 (s. Norden, Agn. Th. 277–308; JWeiss, GHeinrici Festschr. 1914, 120ff; TArvedson, D. Mysterium Chr. [Mt 11:25–30] ’37; NWilliams, ET 51, ’40, 182–86; 215–20; AHunter, NTS 8, ’62, 241–49); Ro 15:9 (Ps 17:50); 1 Cl 26:2; 61:3; B 6:16 (cp. Ps 34:18). τῷ θεῷ (Tob 14:7; Philo, Leg. All. 2, 95) Ro 14:11 (Is 45:23); τῷ κυρίῳ (fr. Gen 29:35 on, oft. in LXX) 1 Cl 48:2 (Ps 117:19); Hm 10, 3, 2.—DELG s.v. ὁμός. M-M. EDNT. TW. Sv.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 351). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.

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