Extreme Faith or Extreme Sovereignty?

[Godisincontrol]

I'll address your other Scriptures at another time. These discussions have taken up waaaaaaay too much of my time today.

LOL. Thank you victoryword. I appreciate your input. I see your side on these verses. This is why we have Arms and Calvs and split churches. And although I see more scriptures that support God being in control, I also see man has a responsibility. I don't think I'll ever understand it all, but that's okay. If God wants me to understand something I am not getting, He'll need to open my heart and mind to it.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

It is because in a debate forum, people want to make the best, most extreme case that they can. So they pull out all the stops and push every issue and point as far out as they can. In the case of WOF, we find ourselves being called everything from gnostics to mormons...
Truth is, we are to some extant outside the orthodox. But that is not a bad thing. Jesus was too. So was Paul, and the rest. So were all the prophets, and everyone else who chooses to follow after the Spirit rather than the letter. It comes with the territory.
If you happen to lay claim to being "orthodox", do not think that that somehow frees you up from having to obey the Word of God. You will not be able to stand before God and lay it on 2000 years of church history, Martin Luther, Calvin, Knox, or anyone else. You are responsible for your faith... not they. WOF folks do depart in that they do not rely on their leaders, despite what the critics say. I do not care what Hagin, Copeland, or any of the others say. If it does not jibe with the Word... forget it. I stickin with Jesus.

I'm with you didy, I don't follow what any man teaches I follow the Bible.