Your last post quoted popes from 1215-1441. I assume you failed to understand that these were issued prior to the Reformation when there was only one faith, Catholic, or none at all.
What part of I was just posting quotes and wasn't making any formal arguments yet or implying anything other than they seem pretty explicit in their meaning, is throwing you off? Seriously, I know
when they were said and that they were said prior to the Reformation. I understand the basic gist of the VCII teaching on the matter, the arguments for it and am currently researching this. Stop talking down to me and insulting my intelligence, highly irritating.
I am puzzled why you were able to do the research to pull these quotes, but are handicapped with regard to researching the many articles that have explained the reason they do not apply to our present world. It occurs to me that you may have confined your research to radical traditionalist websites that are heretical and eager to tear down the Church, and I won't even name them here.
This is ridiculous, I have not confined my research to "radical," Traditionalist sites unless of course you think wikipedia, newadvent.org, churchfathers.org or catholicism.org are "radically," Traditionalist. Come on, I have already stated I am not familiar with the VCII teaching on the matter (though I do understand the gist of it and am reading up), I have said this from the begining and the ESSN doctrine in general, am just posting quotes from various sources and ones that I agree with. They seem fairly explicit even if written prior to the Reformation hence why I posted them because the quotes themselves don't leave much wiggle room so the VCII teachings on the doctrine seem sort of odd to me at first.
Possibly, too, you entered conversations on other forums and are merely repeating the quotes which are full of sophistry and lack of true application because these posters prefer to cling to their wrong understanding rather than submit to the Church's teaching in the second Vatican Council.
You assume to much and this is off putting and annoying (read: highly).
I saw no evidence of questions from you that gave a hint of your trying to learn
I haven't posted them yet and among my first posts in this thread I literally said I hope to learn quote "a thing or two," and see this whole thread as an opportunity to learn. Come off it.
Continue if you will, but the forum rules are specific. If you do not agree with them and wish others to believe EENS in its rigoristic application, then you oppose none of us, but the Church Herself. And, yes, that is reportable. Since this website is not exclusively Catholic and the likelihood of other visitors from the many faiths who post here are liable to obtain false information about the Catholic position, we are under a more strict obligation to post the truth and avoid scandalizing them, particularly with regard to this doctrine.
This is what is offensive, off putting and
highly annoying, I can't even post freely or post quotes or state my current opinion or understanding of the doctrine without you trying to threaten to report me, say I'm doing this and that (when I'm not) and all of this other nonsense which really does nothing but turn me off and makes me want to tune out of the thread which if the subject matter wasn't as important as this, I most certainly would have by now. Oh, no, I posted quotes by Popes (Papal Bulls), Saints and Church Fathers and said they seem fairly explicit in their meaning.
Stop reading into them and threatening me with being reported because I'm not instantaneously saying "oh, yesuh mam, I sho es in aruh, yesuh, sho enuff."