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Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love. 1 Cor 13:13
For me I was out to prove it wrong but after reading a lot of pro and con I was convicted that it is true. Now my love for God has grown and I have so much more love for those outside the church. It’s been a great journey.
The problem with what you said is that you are most likely looking at things from an American perspective. I have been fortunate to be able to travel to places that have no Bible to read no church to go to and many people have never even heard about Jesus to reject him. So the idea that everyone that doesn’t follow God does it by choice doesn’t add up.
I like the line satan most likely enjoys the credit that he has victory over Christ. I was thinking isn’t it interesting that the only camp that believe God 100% satan0% are the ones who are called heretical. I wonder if it’s not satan himself who keeps the other view going because it makes him out to be more powerful than God and that’s the way he likes it. I will probably catch a lot of flack for this .
Really the problem is that you do not accept the way UR translates one word aionios and it’s forms we (I am of the UR camp) believe that that word when translated literally means of the age or eon (we get our English word eon from that word) it can mean eternal but does not always mean that. You believe it’s best translation is eternal. That’s what it all comes down to. We read the same Bible you do and believe probably 90 some % the same things . It’s just for me UR makes the most sense when you read the Bible as a whole. No more trying to explain away the verses like It’s Gods will that none should parish/ Jesus is the savior of the world/ as in Adam all die in Christ all will be made alive. (no more the first all means all but the second all doesn’t) / Jesus loses none that the Father has given him( God gave all things to Jesus) . So that is why I am in the UR camp we are following Christ the best we know how.
Actually that has never been my argument and I do not know how this post responds to or addresses any of my posts here to be honest. Perhaps your mixing me up with someone else?
Wouldn't you expect This then:
Amazing. Thank you for sharing, anything that specifically convinced you? Did you lose friends from your former belief of eternal hell? A lot of people lose friendships over it, I did and it was unfortunate but once God transforms that part of you it is hard to see things the same way you did before.
Really? Post me a single scripture that says that all the wicked will receive everlasting life at the second coming? - There is none. Universalism, is a false teaching first told to Eve in the garden of Eden that you can disobey God and not surely die in Genesis 3:1-5 when God says if we do this we sill surely die. Jesus says the same thing in His own words in John 3:36. Your not seriously going to tell me that Jesus was lying now are you and that wicked who do not believe Gods' Word and continue in known unrepentant sin disobeying Gods' Word will not receive everlasting life when Jesus also says unless you repent you will all likewise perish? There is no second chances when Jesus returns according to the scriptures.
Prove it and lets see if your claims are true or not. I guess I am going to hear and see silence on that request though sadly. You have no scripture now do you Brian to support your claims in this regard do you. I am happy to have an honest and open discussion with you if you are willing. Let's bring everything to the light of Gods Word and see if what we both are saying is true or not. This can only be edifying right?
