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Exploring how the saints live in purity and virginity-Who the saints are

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These are examples of the majority of our saints (edited for clarification)

Saints and the TheotokosYou can't have much contact with the Orthodox Church without running into the saints. They are everywhere. Their icons adorn the walls of churches and homes, cars, book covers, and greeting cards. Their names grace churches and worshippers alike. In every service they are commemorated, singly and in the aggregate, and their intercessions are invoked. It is clear that they form an important and integral part of the life of the Church. Who are these people, and why do we honor them so highly? Isn't it enough just to have a personal relationship with God?
In the Orthodox viewpoint, there is really no such thing as a "personal" relationship with God-in the sense of a relationship between God and an individual, excluding all other individuals. We do relate to God as persons, but as persons who are part of a whole, an enormous worshipping Body that includes all other Christians, both those on earth and those in heaven. We are not saved in isolation; we are saved as part of a family, the family of God. That family includes the Saints.
The root meaning of "saint" is "one set apart." In one sense, all the faithful are saints, set apart from the world to the service of God. But those whom we honor as Saints with a capital "S" are those whose service to God has been of a demonstrably high order-those who gave themselves to Him so completely that His light, His Divine Energy, could shine through them to illuminate the world. When we honor these saints, we are actually celebrating what the Holy Spirit has done in their lives. They would be nothing without Him. Their whole life's purpose was to point us to God.
When we honor (or "venerate") the saints, when we pray before their icons and even kiss them, we are not worshipping the saints; worship belongs to God alone. Nor are we praying to them-they are not mediators, for Christ is the only Mediator between God and man. Rather, we are praying with them, and asking them to pray for us. We ask their prayers just as we would ask the prayers of our living relatives and friends. We are all together members of the family of God.
Those whom the Church officially recognizes as saints are only a small fraction of all the saints in heaven. Most of those who have gained the Kingdom of heaven are unknown to the world. Those who are known are regarded as the Heroes of the Faith. They come from all ages, from all races, from both sexes, from all places and walks of life. Some were martyrs for the Faith, like St. Lawrence; some gave their lives to Christ through monastic asceticism; some were apostles, teachers, or missionaries; some were fools for Christ, like St. Xenia; others lived as outwardly ordinary married men and women in the world. There are even whole families of saints, such as St. Sophia and her three young daughters, Faith, Hope, and Charity, who were all martyred; or that great family of theologian-ascetics, St. Basil the Elder and St. Emilia with their children, St. Macrina the Younger, St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory of Nyssa, St. Peter of Sebaste, and St. Theosevia. What they all have in common is that they achieved in their lifetime, purity of heart, illumination, and deification; that is, they became like Christ.
As Christ loves His people, then, His saints also love us, their brethren here on earth. They love to pray for us, to inspire us with their example. We honor them, not out of duty, but out of love. They are our older brothers and sisters, our fathers and mothers, in the Faith. They surround us like a "great cloud of witnesses" (Hebrews 12:1), cheering us on from the sidelines as we run our race to the finish.
http://www.slocc.com/orthodoxy/saintstheotokos.html
Living a Christ like life means living in purity of heart and body and soul.

Here is one example of St. Pelagia :)


http://www.antiochian.org/node/16763
 
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When we honor (or "venerate") the saints, when we pray before their icons and even kiss them, we are not worshipping the saints; worship belongs to God alone. Nor are we praying to them-they are not mediators, for Christ is the only Mediator between God and man. Rather, we are praying with them, and asking them to pray for us. We ask their prayers just as we would ask the prayers of our living relatives and friends. We are all together members of the family of God.


and from the life of St. Pelagia:
The holy virgin refused the emperor’s offer with contempt and said, “You are insane, Emperor, saying such things to me. I will not do your bidding, and I loathe your vile marriage, since I have Christ, the King of Heaven, as my Bridegroom. I do not desire your worldly crowns which last only a short while. The Lord in His heavenly Kingdom has prepared three imperishable crowns for me. The first is for faith, since I have believed in the true God with all my heart; the second is for purity, because I have dedicated my virginity to Him; the third is for martyrdom, since I want to accept every suffering for Him and offer up my soul because of my love for Him.”
 
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Josiah said:
Does the EO teach that all saints are perpetual virgins?
Does the EO teach that, by definition, nonvirgins are "impure" and all virgins are "pure?"



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That DOES render a LOT of posts by Orthodox perplexing....

In light of your answer to my question, can you then explain the title of this thread?




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Those who wish to emulate the Theotokos and others saints in their chastity and purity

No Josiah one has to read this saint's life to see that....


So, if purity and virginity are in no way associated, then what does the title of this thread, "Exploring how the saints lived in purity AND VIRGINITY" mean?

And, of course, I suspect MOST nonvirgins live chast lives. But the title of this thread isn't about chastity, it's about virginity.





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Some lessons on Orthodox Spirituality.
We are not only flesh but spirit and need spiritual nourishment :)
We are to partake of the mystical reality of the Church. We are to participate in God's energies and strive to live a life in sanctification....We are to life in communion with Him. And that is what the saints do on this earth and in full communion in the other life... We are communal spiritual beings. Asceticism is for everyone and we are called to it to different degrees each one of us according to his/her calling.

That does not mean that ONLY the saints who have passed on are the ones who have attain that level. Every one can according to his calling to live such life... Theocentric life is living in communion with God one self and the other.. That is true communion with God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kMhvqwbx_M


Purification is part of every human and a process and a tool that is recommended so that we can be "open" to the calling by God. So it is just the means not the goal as most people think...The same with virginity it is a tool to perfection not the aim. The aim is God and getting closer to Him...
Four points of unseen warfare:
1. we do not rely on ourselves
2. Trust God alone
3. strive constantly
4. pray constantly

these are not ONLY for monastics but everyone who wants to live a life in Christ.
 
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Also Fr Arseny on temptations. I find his description very interesting and useful. The first temptation from above seems to be the most hard one since it has to deal with our ego and pride I think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ffiUN_xB4&NR=1
 
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