Existence

[Eudaimonist]

When the God of the bible acts,
the intent is attributed to God the Father
the affect is attributed to God the Holy Spirit and
the effect is attributed to God the Son.
The only times there is ever a distinction made between the persons of the "trinity" is when God acts,
and it is always in the economy outlined above.

So, are you saying that the Old Testament ascribes the Flood (an effect) to God the Son?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Eudaimonist]

OH, I see. Actuality and potentiality. I agree with you now.

It's as if potentiality is an extension of an already extant actuality, and not its own being. Right?

Right!

An actuality has the causal power to create a potentiality, so I suppose that you can speak of a potentiality as a causal "extension" of an actuality. A potentiality doesn't exist right now, but may exist in the future.

(BTW, make sure to distinguish between my views and bricklayer's. There are doubtless many differences there.)


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[ivebeenshown]

So God is three seperate people, but not divisible?

The three persons are consubstantial -- that is, they are not separate beings but one being. The three persons differ only in relation to one another.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I guess that makes sense.

eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[bricklayer]

So, are you saying that the Old Testament ascribes the Flood (an effect) to God the Son?


eudaimonia,

Mark

The flood was effectively a shadow of salvation, as was passover, and any number of old testament acts.

 

[ivebeenshown]

Now that we have the actuality/potentiality thing cleared up...

What are some reasons that 'the act of existing' could not be its own being independent of any other beings?

 

[bricklayer]

Now that we have the actuality/potentiality thing cleared up...

What are some reasons that 'the act of existing' could not be its own being independent of any other beings?

Necessary existence is not an act.

Contingent existence is an act.
The triune nature of an act is: intent-affect-effect.
An act is a continuum of intent-affect-effect.

Material exists contingently.
Material existence is the intent-affect-effect of a necessary existence.
Non-existence cannot produce existence, and no effect can transcend its cause.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

What about exitentialism? Is it still alive?