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I wonder if he's rubbish in bed. This may come as shocking news but it is a complete myth that women have a lower sex drive than men, what often happens is that after the honey moon phase, men just stop putting the effort in and a lot of women (and I don't blame them for this) think no sex is better than bad sex.
So, if a man is complaining about a lack of sex in his marriage, the first thing he should do is ask himself a very important question ''does my wife enjoy sex'', and if the answer is no then he should work on changing that.
Do what you did when you were courting her and treated her like her affection actually meant something to you
By Inkachu
Before the wedding, there's usually hand holding, hugs, kisses, caresses, cuddles, whispered sweet nothings, passionate embraces. After the wedding, it's often reduced to "hey, you awake?"
My first reaction is, I wouldn't want to have sex with a drunk man either. I wonder if she's using the other excuses because she doesn't want to just say "No, you're drunk," every time.
I think you raised excellent points. I only want to observe that whether he or she is creating the tension between them, in neither case is it the *entire gender* at fault. And it's probably both of them, because I've learned that it's usually not the fault of only one or only the other. Most of the time, they both contribute.*snipped for space*
If both partners do not meet the major needs of the other then the chance of Divorce is high. Then it would not matter if he or she was right or wrong the family would be fractured. I think it much better to concentrate on what each partner can do to prevent getting a divorce than get into a speculation debate as to which sex is wrong.
Except on 6-16 she was the drunk one.
It might be pertinent to the discussion to go to ericberne.com and click on the information for the marital game, "Frigid Woman." Some people may remember Dr. Eric Berne as the author of the book "Games People Play," of which this is one. I can't link it because one of the games at the site has a borderline vulgar name, but a google search should bring it up easily.
How does a man hold hands, hug, kiss, caress, cuddle, whisper sweet nothings, passionately embrace and treat her like affection actually meant something to him...if it truly does NOT "mean something" to him?
Sorry, I should have clarified what the "it" was in my question.
Instead of asking, "How does a man hold hands, hug, kiss, caress, cuddle, whisper sweet nothings, passionately embrace and treat her like affection actually meant something to him...if it truly does NOT "mean something" to him," I should have asked, "How does a man hold hands, hug, kiss, caress, cuddle, whisper sweet nothings, passionately embrace and treat her like affection actually meant something to him...if the physical acts of affection expressed in holding hands, kissing, caressing and cuddling (and so on) truly does NOT "mean something" to him?"
If a man does not enjoy the physical act of hugging, is it possible for him to please his wife by hugging her if she knows that he does not enjoy hugging?
And sex is something he has to earn? It's a reward now?
Holla.
Before the wedding, there's usually hand holding, hugs, kisses, caresses, cuddles, whispered sweet nothings, passionate embraces. After the wedding, it's often reduced to "hey, you awake?"
Do what you did when you were courting her and treated her like her affection actually meant something to you
In this thread we have learned you have to be
-clean
...-not drunk...
-a good lover...
-willing to show lots of affection to build up to the act, courting her, etc.
-on good emotional ground in the marriage
and she has to be "in the mood" apart from all that, for the wife to want to have sex with you.
It sounds like you don't disagree with him as much as you might think in regards to earning it.
Meanwhile the man is wired to want sex rather frequently. Call us pigs or whatever. It just is there. About the only thing that is required is that he doesn't find her completely repulsive, and there are not huge physical issues.
So yes, sometimes it does feel like "earning" it, whether intended or not.
And here is a related thought...men tend to feel more bonded after sex, and might be more likely to show affection if they actually have sex.
Whew.OK, now THAT question makes sense lol.
If you want to continue to use my posts and examples as a reference for your question, then we need to ask "Why did he hug and cuddle and snuggle her for months on end while he was courting her? Was he "faking" it the whole time? Just so he could marry her and get her into bed and then drop his affectionate charade?"
If the answer is no (he wasn't faking it), then what happened to make him suddenly hate hugging? That needs to be addressed.
If the answer is yes (he was faking it), then his wife is faced with the unfortunate reality that her husband deceived her into thinking he enjoyed physical affection, when he really doesn't. That also needs to be addressed.
Should she force him (via guilt trips or what-have-you) into hugging her when she knows he doesn't want to? I don't think so. I think they need to address the underlying questions of why it used to occur and now doesn't.
Whew.
Thanks for understanding. And, I have to say, I agree with everything you've listed.
In this thread we have learned you have to be
-clean
-not drunk
-a good lover
-willing to show lots of affection to build up to the act, courting her, etc.
-on good emotional ground in the marriage
essentially have all other issues dealt with, and she has to be "in the mood" apart from all that, for the wife to want to have sex with you.
It sounds like you don't disagree with him as much as you might think in regards to earning it.
Meanwhile many men report that they are physically wired to want sex rather frequently. Call us pigs or whatever. It just is there. About the only thing that is required is that he doesn't find her completely repulsive, and there are not huge physical issues.
So yes, sometimes it does feel like "earning" it, whether intended or not.
And here is a related thought...men tend to feel more bonded after sex, and might be more likely to show affection if they actually have sex.
Good personal hygiene, not being drunk and being a good lover should not be considered onerous. Sex is a two way thing and giving pleasure is just as much a part of it as receiving. If that is considered too much effort then frankly some people deserve not to have sex.
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