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Examples of Recent Conservative Policies With Measurable Success?

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I typically vote Dem, but I'm a technocrat at heart. As such, I'm much more interested in solutions than I am in any sort of partisan orthodoxy. Because of my media consumption, I'm exposed to (and am, thus, more familiar with the pro's and cons of) more center-left policy ideas than I am center-right and beyond.

I'm curious: What conservative policies implemented within the last, say, 20-25 years, have had the effects they were predicted to or claimed to have had? Heck, we can even include happy accidents - successes that weren't necessarily predicted, but turned out good anyways. I'm not looking for vague claims like "unemployment fell under Trump" or "Texas has great job growth." I'm looking for examples that are specific and measurable. A center-left example of what I'm looking for would be that Obamacare reduced the number of people without health insurance and slowed the growth of total health care expenditures. An example from the right would be that Trump's tax cuts increased GDP growth.

Citations would be preferred. Op-eds are not preferred as a source unless they happen to provide a lot of citations themselves (as Paul Krugman tends to do, for example).
 

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I typically vote Dem, but I'm a technocrat at heart. As such, I'm much more interested in solutions than I am in any sort of partisan orthodoxy. Because of my media consumption, I'm exposed to (and am, thus, more familiar with the pro's and cons of) more center-left policy ideas than I am center-right and beyond.

I'm curious: What conservative policies implemented within the last, say, 20-25 years, have had the effects they were predicted to or claimed to have had? Heck, we can even include happy accidents - successes that weren't necessarily predicted, but turned out good anyways. I'm not looking for vague claims like "unemployment fell under Trump" or "Texas has great job growth." I'm looking for examples that are specific and measurable. A center-left example of what I'm looking for would be that Obamacare reduced the number of people without health insurance and slowed the growth of total health care expenditures. An example from the right would be that Trump's tax cuts increased GDP growth.

Citations would be preferred. Op-eds are not preferred as a source unless they happen to provide a lot of citations themselves (as Paul Krugman tends to do, for example).

The freeze in Federal spending of the late 90s had the effect of reducing the Federal deficit.
 
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GWB passed the Medicare Prescription plan. It wasn't as good as the Democratic plan would have been but eventually Dems made it better.

And GWB kept his promise.

What problem did that policy solve? / What was the positive outcome of that program?

More to the point of my OP - was that really a "conservative" policy or was it merely one forwarded by a Republican?
 
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What problem did that policy solve? / What was the positive outcome of that program?

More to the point of my OP - was that really a "conservative" policy or was it merely one forwarded by a Republican?
Hear here!*
This was what started the crack in the GOP/Conservative alliance.
Now the GOP has gotten away from conservative principles:
  • Free Trade became “Trade wars are good and easy to win”
  • Small Government became record deficits, (Joe will easily shatter those!)
  • Come 2025 the tax-breaks expire for everyone not already living in Elysium
  • States’ Rights get repudiated in the Texas vs four sister states for following their own elections laws.
  • “Drain the Swamp” didn’t mean “into a moat”!
The Party’s are switching again.
The Democrats will become Conservative, the Republicans will be the “ideas party” and now that they’ve nearly exhausted the “bad ideas”, things will finally be looking up for all of us!


*I like mine betterer
 
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Since last year, the US government has been heavily involved in the development, manufacture, and procurement of the Covid-19 vaccines. As of last Dec.,"Operation Warp Speed" had spent $12.4 billion, spread among 6 companies. That's actually small potatoes compared what the feds spend on other programs. But it's been undoubtedly successful. One can argue that government investing billions to partner with private industry (at least for non-military purposes) is not a traditionally conservative policy. But it was begun under a conservative administration.

https://time.com/5921360/
 
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I typically vote Dem, but I'm a technocrat at heart. As such, I'm much more interested in solutions than I am in any sort of partisan orthodoxy. Because of my media consumption, I'm exposed to (and am, thus, more familiar with the pro's and cons of) more center-left policy ideas than I am center-right and beyond.

I'm curious: What conservative policies implemented within the last, say, 20-25 years, have had the effects they were predicted to or claimed to have had? Heck, we can even include happy accidents - successes that weren't necessarily predicted, but turned out good anyways. I'm not looking for vague claims like "unemployment fell under Trump" or "Texas has great job growth." I'm looking for examples that are specific and measurable. A center-left example of what I'm looking for would be that Obamacare reduced the number of people without health insurance and slowed the growth of total health care expenditures. An example from the right would be that Trump's tax cuts increased GDP growth.

Citations would be preferred. Op-eds are not preferred as a source unless they happen to provide a lot of citations themselves (as Paul Krugman tends to do, for example).

Title 42....the executive order mandating all people caught crossing the border illegally be returned across the border immediately can realistically measured both in the sudden drop in illegal crossings and the sudden increase since Biden took office.
 
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Title 42....the executive order mandating all people caught crossing the border illegally be returned across the border immediately can realistically measured both in the sudden drop in illegal crossings and the sudden increase since Biden took office.

Thank you. I had this in mind when I wrote the OP and was wondering how long it would take somebody to mention it.
 
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This thread has went through a clean-up of
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Please post to the OP subject.

Hat off.
 
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Thank you. I had this in mind when I wrote the OP and was wondering how long it would take somebody to mention it.

You're welcome? You said measurable....that's the most measurable policy he has.

I suppose one could weigh the cost of 1 missile against the life of one relatively effective Iranian general and his terrorist networks. I don't know how though....perhaps against the number of lives and munitions it would normally cost to achieve that result?
 
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The positive effect of the Medicare Prescription Plan was that seniors could afford theur meds (lessening surgeries and more drastic treartments).

Was it a conservative policy? Well, you were looking for a positive program...

It used private insurance plans and people could choose.

As I said, conservative treatments often prevent more costly ones.

Was it the best way to solve the problem? I don't think so, but it helped.
 
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I suppose one could weigh the cost of 1 missile against the life of one relatively effective Iranian general and his terrorist networks. I don't know how though....perhaps against the number of lives and munitions it would normally cost to achieve that result?

I could see an argument being made for that one, too, though I'd imagine it'd take a couple decades for any sort of data to roll in.
 
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No you didn't. You just said look at the NYC crime rate, which does not support your claim.

Stop and Frisk went through a major reform in 2013. That year there were 111,353 "major" felonies, 57650 other felonies, 359,350 misdemeanors, and 61031 violations. In 2020 there were in the respective categories, 95593, 41015, 214263, and 67371. So the only category that saw an increase at all were violations, which aren't crimes in the first place according to NYS. So your claim that stopping stop and frisk increased crime in NYC doesn't hold up to the evidence.
 
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I typically vote Dem, but I'm a technocrat at heart. As such, I'm much more interested in solutions than I am in any sort of partisan orthodoxy. Because of my media consumption, I'm exposed to (and am, thus, more familiar with the pro's and cons of) more center-left policy ideas than I am center-right and beyond.

I'm curious: What conservative policies implemented within the last, say, 20-25 years, have had the effects they were predicted to or claimed to have had? Heck, we can even include happy accidents - successes that weren't necessarily predicted, but turned out good anyways. I'm not looking for vague claims like "unemployment fell under Trump" or "Texas has great job growth." I'm looking for examples that are specific and measurable. A center-left example of what I'm looking for would be that Obamacare reduced the number of people without health insurance and slowed the growth of total health care expenditures. An example from the right would be that Trump's tax cuts increased GDP growth.

Citations would be preferred. Op-eds are not preferred as a source unless they happen to provide a lot of citations themselves (as Paul Krugman tends to do, for example).

Could you define conservative so that we would be able to tell if a policy was actually conservative or not? From my perspective, conservative has meant something along the lines of maintaining the status quo. The status quo in government is progressivism. The federal government progressively taking more and more control over all aspects of interactions between and among citizens. It does not seem to matter who is in government or which faction has the power to implement policy.
 
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