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People don't get me wrong. Evolutions isn't true. Devolution is true in the bloodline of Nephilim. Not in regular human beings.
Does all of your evidence for "devolution" come from scripture?
The word itself doesn't. The meaning of Devolution can be found in Scripture
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It is one thing to use the word devolution to describe the Nephilim, but that doesn't tell us anything about the creationist use of the word devolution. The creationist use is a very different concept from the Nephilim. Creationism says that instead of evolving, the human race (and all other created kinds) have been deteriorating genetically. But your use of the word does not apply to regular human beings, just the Nephilim bloodline, so it really doesn't say anything on the subject. The fact that you use the same word as the Creationists, neither validates nor contradicts the Creationist use because you are simply using the same word in a very different way.People don't get me wrong. Evolutions isn't true. Devolution is true in the bloodline of Nephilim. Not in regular human beings.
It is one thing to use the word devolution to describe the Nephilim, but that doesn't tell us anything about the creationist use of the word devolution. The creationist use is a very different concept from the Nephilim. Creationism says that instead of evolving, the human race (and all other created kinds) have been deteriorating genetically. But your use of the word does not apply to regular human beings, just the Nephilim bloodline, so it really doesn't say anything on the subject. The fact that you use the same word as the Creationists, neither validates nor contradicts the Creationist use because you are simply using the same word in a very different way.
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Well genetic deterioration is what Creations mean by devolution so I suppose it is a pretty catchy word to describe the concept, but that doesn't mean they are right that devolution describes what we see in the human race and nature.You said it.....deteriorating genetically.....if that doesn't sound like devolution then I don't know what does. Creationists are right to a certain an extent. Evolutionist are right to a certain extent.
Not sure I really want to get into Gap theory right now, I appreciate it as an early attempt by Christians to deal with the rise in modern geology a few centuries ago, and I agree it was right for them to look for different ways to understand Genesis when geology showed that the young earth interpretation of people like Ussher simply did not hold up, but I don't think it is the only way found to read the Genesis text, I don't think it was the best way, and it hasn't stood the text of further developments in Geology. Life on earth did not begin again 6000 years ago.What do I mean by this?
Creationist are right to the extent of Gen 1 of the world being made.
Evolutionist are right to the a certain extent because the world is older than what Creationist believe. There is proof in the bible.
I think this is one of the big problems with the Gap Theory, while Jeremiah does use imagery from Genesis, he is describing the devestation of Jerusalem and Judah by the Bablyonians. Reading it as a description of the Gap is taking the descripition of the destruction of Judah out of context.Gen 1:1 and 1:2 are connected with Jeremiah 4:23-26.
Genesis 1:1-2 (New King James Version)
Genesis 1
The History of Creation
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
****When God makes something it is whole and complete. No alterations needed. God makes things perfect from the beginning. Verse 1 the earth and heavens are fertile and rich and perfect. ****
2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was[a] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
****This is an alter state in verse 2. Now the earth is without form and void...... Keep in mind there is a different state of the earth from v.1 to v.2
The connection is in Gen 1:2 and Jeremiah 4:23-26. Let's look at the verses one by one.****
Jeremiah 4:23-26 (New King James Version)
23 I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void;
And the heavens, they had no light.
(**** This mentions the earth and without form and void. Just like Gen 1:2.
Jeremiah 4:23-26 (New International Version)
23 I looked at the earth,
and it was formless and empty;
and at the heavens,
and their light was gone.
"they had not light" is phrased, In the NIV, "their light was gone".
That tells me that Light was there before Gen 1:2 happened.****)
24 I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled,
And all the hills moved back and forth.
****So mountains and hills existed before Gen 1:2 took place****
25 I beheld, and indeed there was no man,
And all the birds of the heavens had fled.
****"There was no man" which would fit because Adam and Eve aren't made by God yet until Gen 1:26-28. If I am reading this correct there are birds existing in before Gen 1:2. Birds are here before Adam and Eve were created by God****
26 I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were broken down
At the presence of the LORD,
By His fierce anger.
****This verse is very interesting.....First, Notice the fruitful land is a wilderness. Gen 1:1 is a fruitland. Gen 1:2 now the fruitfulland is a wilderness. Two different states on the Earth. 2nd point, Notice it states" there was no man" in the previous verse. If there is no man then how are their cities??? Cities just don't build on there own by magic. Cities are build by intelligence/beings.....I think there were beings living on Earth before Adam and Eve were made by God according to the connection of Gen. 1:1-2 and Jeremiah 4:23-26....I'm not sure if these beings are Men too. I am sure that there is no connection with these entities of people and Adam and Eve....If you read v.26 in context, then you will understand these beings/entities/people were wicked enough for God's wrath to appear to take down/ruin their cities. If you look at the bible correct in Gen 1:2, God's spirit was hovering over the waters (Plural) of earth. That tells me the whole earth. This is the first flood. The second flood is Noah's flood on earth.****
You need to be careful with Strong's definitions. See the way I have divided it into red and blue. The two section are separated by a double dash. The first part in red is what the Hebrew word means, the second part in blue is simply a list of all the different ways the word is translated in the King James. Basically the Strong's definition has led you round in a circle, if you pick out and given the etymology of replenish, you are not analysing the meaning of the Hebrew but the mean of the English word used by the King James translators. But if you look at the Strong's description of the Hebrew, it simply means fill or be full of.Another point that the earth may be older than Creationist think is.....
After the flood of Noah, God tells Noah this commandment....
Genesis 9:1 (King James Version)
Genesis 9
1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
****The word "replenish" is there****
According to the Hebrew lexicon the word for replenish is 4390. male' (maw-lay'). The definition, according to the Hebrew Lexicon, of this word is
4390. male' (maw-lay'):Or malae (Esth. 7:5) {maw-law'}; a primitive root, to fill or (intransitively) be full of, in a wide application (literally and figuratively) -- accomplish, confirm, + consecrate, be at an end, be expired, be fenced, fill, fulfil, (be, become, X draw, give in, go) full(-ly, -ly set, tale), (over-)flow, fulness, furnish, gather (selves, together), presume, replenish, satisfy, set, space, take a (hand-)full, + have wholly.
What does replenish mean? the prefix re- means to redo.
Again fill works just as well and is how modern translations put it.****We know that before the flood there was life from Gen 1 to 9. So because there was previous life before the flood then the word "REPLENISH" would fit****
****What is more interesting is what God told Adam and Eve****
Genesis 1:28 (King James Version)
28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
****The same passage that was given to Noah(because there was previous life) is the same passage God gave to Adam and Eve
The same word is used, in hebrew, for "replenish". 4390. male' (maw-lay')****
The word itself doesn't. The meaning of Devolution can be found in Scripture
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I think this is one of the big problems with the Gap Theory, while Jeremiah does use imagery from Genesis, he is describing the devestation of Jerusalem and Judah by the Bablyonians. Reading it as a description of the Gap is taking the descripition of the destruction of Judah out of context.
Men of Renown: Your link was to a video of a street magician in Japan. Was that intentional and/or supposed to carry any weight?
Heroes of Old (Giants): This one is a PRATT. There's no reason why ancient hominids couldn't have growth hormone secreting pituitary tumors like we have seen today.
Modern people have been recorded as well over 8 feet tall and that's just a few hundred years of proper record keeping. The 100,000 years or so of human history could easily be responsible for such large skeletons.
Next I would say that there were Pleistocene apes called Gigantopithecus that stood about 10 feet tall. Their remains are very similar to those of humans, particularly when the skull is damaged.
It is easy to see where stories of giants come from.
Finally I would say that I have seen various other videos that are photo montages of "giants" and these are frequently forced perspective shots or images taken from angles that are meant to mislead (none include a scale bar, none follow recognised photographic conventions used in science such as lateral, dorsal and ventral views).
The problem is, Jeremiah does not say he is describing what happened to people who live before Gen 1:2, if you take the passage at face value, the vision is given as a description of what was going to happen to happen to Judah, in his vision Jeremiah saw the land empty and desolate. Now you could claim that the revelation of what happened in Gen 1:2 is a deeper hidden meaning of the text, the bible does contain hidden and allegorical meanings, the word of God is living and active as Hebrews says, but it is not the plain meaning of the text.God gave Jeremiah that revelation. Yes it is was used as an example to Judah/Israel. Look at Jesus' actions. His parables has meaning in it. He masks his parables but explains them the meaning to his disciples. Every parable has a meaning. Looking at that trend and apply it to Jeremiah 4. God will do to Judah/Israel as He showed Jeremiah what happened to the people in Jeremiah 4:26 that lived before Gen 1:2 happened.
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