Evolution's Brick Wall

[inquiring mind]

1. So, OK - you don't understand the science verbiage - then why did you ask a scientific question?
2. Lack of evidence? Ah - you must be one of those disingenuous creationists that considers things not to exist if you cannot understand it
3. And top it off with a healthy dose of anthropocentrism.
Splendid!

This is a Creation & Evolution board. If some type science degree is required to question evolution, then a theology degree should also be required to dispute creation.

 

[Jimmy D]

This is a Creation & Evolution board. If some type science degree is required to question evolution, then a theology degree should also be required to dispute creation.

You guys manage to dispute "creation" amongst yourselves. There's no need for us regular folk to really bother.

 

[DogmaHunter]

This is a Creation & Evolution board. If some type science degree is required to question evolution, then a theology degree should also be required to dispute creation.

At least you acknowledge that creationism is a matter of religion and not a matter of science. ;-)

 

[inquiring mind]

You guys manage to dispute "creation" amongst yourselves. There's no need for us regular folk to really bother.

By regular folk, you mean folk like yourself... who believe they descend from a monkey?

 

[pitabread]

who believe they descend from a monkey?

The evidence shows we share ancestry with other primates. What's wrong with that?

 

[inquiring mind]

The evidence shows we share ancestry with other primates. What's wrong with that?

By saying "share," which is using a very broad brush, are you kinda admitting that no direct line actually exists?

 

[inquiring mind]

At least you acknowledge that creationism is a matter of religion and not a matter of science. ;-)

Whew! We finally cleared that up.

 

[DogmaHunter]

By saying "share," which is using a very broad brush, are you kinda admitting that no direct line actually exists?

We share ancestry with the other primates, just like you share ancestry with your siblings or cousins.

As in: we share an ancestor, X generations ago.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Whew! We finally cleared that up.

Ok.

But then the conversation is over.
Evidence based science trumps faith based religion, any day of the week.

 

[VirOptimus]

By regular folk, you mean folk like yourself... who believe they descend from a monkey?

Again, humans are apes by definition.

Thats a fact, not a belief.

 

[inquiring mind]

Ok.
But then the conversation is over.
Evidence based science trumps faith based religion, any day of the week.

"Evidence," now that's what we need to be talking about in this thread. I was sure something would be relevant to the OP.

 

[Jimmy D]

By regular folk, you mean folk like yourself... who believe they descend from a monkey?

I mean pretty much everyone - Christians, Atheists, Hindus alike, who don't subscribe to fundamentalist Bible idolatry.

Certainly everyone I know in real life (although I'm not American to be fair).

 

[inquiring mind]

Again, humans are apes by definition.
Thats a fact, not a belief.

And, I will admit there is a striking resemblance (in manner) by some.

 

[DogmaHunter]

"Evidence," now that's what we need to be talking about in this thread. I was sure something would be relevant to the OP.

There are more then 200.000 peer reviewed science papers on evolution, each detailing evidence.

There are thousands of natural history museums around the world, showing the evidence.

There are countless resources concerning evolutionary biology, molecular biology, evolutionary genetics, population genetics, comparative anatomy, etc etc etc etc, presenting and discussing the evidence.

Seriously, if you have a hard time finding information on the evidence for evolution, it can only be by lack of trying.

 

[VirOptimus]

And, I will admit there is a striking resemblance (in manner) by some.

Ooo, nice one, very mature.

That doesnt change the facts.

 

[DogmaHunter]

And, I will admit there is a striking resemblance (in manner) by some.

It seems you aren't getting it.

Let's put it another way:
It is not possible to come up with a definition of "primate", which includes ALL primates and only excludes humans, without explicitly adding an arbitrary "...but not humans" to the definition.

Humans are primates, just like humans are mammals.

 

[inquiring mind]

There are more then 200.000 peer reviewed science papers on evolution, each detailing evidence.

There are thousands of natural history museums around the world, showing the evidence.

There are countless resources concerning evolutionary biology, molecular biology, evolutionary genetics, population genetics, comparative anatomy, etc etc etc etc, presenting and discussing the evidence.

Seriously, if you have a hard time finding information on the evidence for evolution, it can only be by lack of trying.

You just don't get it. There is no doubt some form of micro evolution occurs. It's "evidence" showing the change from one kind to another kind that is lacking... and that is evolution's grand theme brick wall.

 

[VirOptimus]

You just don't get it. There is no doubt some form of micro evolution occurs. It's "evidence" showing the change from one kind to another kind that is lacking... and that is evolution's grand theme brick wall.

What exactly is a kind, define the term.

 

[Job 33:6]

"Evidence," now that's what we need to be talking about in this thread. I was sure something would be relevant to the OP.

The evidence has been presented. We have phylogenies aligning across multiple fields, genetics, paleontology, ervs, protein studies, morphology, comparative anatomy, biogeographic studies and more.

 

[inquiring mind]

What exactly is a kind, define the term.

This is getting sooo repetitive. AV did a great job with the definition he provided in post #774.