Evolutionists, please respond.

[AV1611VET]

It seemed that chilehd made a reference to Hovind, the comment about a mail order degree, and that AVET was using his old "take a hike" statement he makes whenever he knows that he is wrong.

I saw the gross error that Ross made in the minute or so of video that AVET wanted us to watch and realized at that point anything he had to say would be simply GIGO.

... am I good or what!?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

After all, it's not what we say that counts -- it's what we are, isn't it?

What is it that you think you are?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Um ... we're not talking about Mr. Hovind, are we?

We're talking about Doctor Hugh Ross, aren't we?

But ... hey ... it doesn't matter, does it? they're both dishonest, aren't they?

After all, it's not what we say that counts -- it's what we are, isn't it?

I realized my mistake already. And except for your last line you had this one right.

Who knows, we might have AVET accepting evolution some day.

 

[AV1611VET]

What is it that you think you are?

I know what I am -- and I don't have any qualms about putting it in my profile, either.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

I know what I am -- and I don't have any qualms about putting it in my profile, either.

You make a big thing of saying that you think there is some issue about what you are, but I don't actually know what it is that you imagine we think you are that is more important than what you have to say.

Speaking just for myself, if I ever think of you as anything it is as a psychological study. But any interesting aspects of that are only revealed by what you have to say, so it hardly fits your claim about what we think you are being more important than what you say. As for what is in your profile, I'm afraid it doesn't say much that I find very interesting. That you think it does is more interesting to me than what is in it.

 

[AV1611VET]

As for what is in your profile, I'm afraid it doesn't say much that I find very interesting. That you think it does is more interesting to me than what is in it.

So it doesn't matter what my profile says, does it?

It's what wrote it ... is that what you're saying?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

So it doesn't matter what my profile says, does it?

I don't find what you have written in your profile very interesting, but that's not to say you couldn't write a profile that I would find interesting.

It's what wrote it ... is that what you're saying?

I don't think of you as a 'what' but as a human being. Does that still fit your narrative in which "it's not what we say but what we are" is a meaningful question?

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't think of you as a 'what' but as a human being. Does that still fit your narrative in which "it's not what we say but what we are" is a meaningful question?

By 'what' ... I meant 'Christian.'

 

[Mr Strawberry]

By 'what' ... I meant 'Christian.'

So your original question was:

"It's not what we Christians say that counts, it's the fact that we're Christians, isn't it?"

To which the answer is no, you'll be disappointed to learn.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So it doesn't matter what my profile says, does it?

It's what wrote it ... is that what you're saying?

Indeed -- you can call yourself whatever you wish, but it's your actions that determine what you truly are.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So your original question was:

"It's not what we Christians say that counts, it's the fact that we're Christians, isn't it?"

To which the answer is no, you'll be disappointed to learn.

No, he won't... learn, that is.

 

[AV1611VET]

Indeed -- you can call yourself whatever you wish, but it's your actions that determine what you truly are.

Then this:

He's obviously an intelligent man, but he says a bunch of really, really stupid things. Maybe he got his degree from some mail-order place?

... can take a hike.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, he won't... learn, that is.

He's obviously an intelligent man, but he says a bunch of really, really stupid things. Maybe he got his degree from some mail-order place?

Obviously learning doesn't prevent ridicule, does it?

So the point you just made, TLK, means nothing to me.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then this:

... can take a hike.

Truth hurts too much, AV? Showing himself to be an ignorant buffoon is no longer an "action" in your world?

Your actions betray you as well, AV.

 

[BrandiFL]

If evolution was true then how do you explain the existence of creationists? I thought evolution means everyone should be getting smarter not dumber!

You can't explain that!

 

[StormanNorman]

If evolution was true then how do you explain the existence of creationists? I thought evolution means everyone should be getting smarter not dumber!

You can't explain that!

Actually, evolution doesn't necessarily imply that a species will get "smarter;" would only be true if increased intelligence is beneficial in terms of natural selection.

 

[Lucy Stulz]

If evolution was true then how do you explain the existence of creationists? I thought evolution means everyone should be getting smarter not dumber!

You can't explain that!

As long as there is not a disadvantage that would select against their continued existence.

Creationism can continue to exist because there are enough scientists who, using evolutionary theories in biology, develop the life saving technologies that will work even if the user decides to dislike this part of science!

 

[AV1611VET]

If evolution was true then how do you explain the existence of creationists?

Theistic evolution is also known as evolutionary creation.

 

[BrandiFL]

Actually, evolution doesn't necessarily imply that a species will get "smarter;" would only be true if increased intelligence is beneficial in terms of natural selection.

Hehe I know I was just being silly. Seriously though, it seems dumb people are actually reproducing faster so maybe we are all actually getting dumber... unless intelligence isn't as genetic as I fear it is.

 

[StormanNorman]

Hehe I know I was just being silly. Seriously though, it seems dumb people are actually reproducing faster so maybe we are all actually getting dumber... unless intelligence isn't as genetic as I fear it is.

There could be some truth to that. Because we have social safety nets (which I'm not arguing against), lack of intelligence may no longer play a role in determining who can and cannot successfully reproduce.