Evolutionist to Creationist Ratio

[Crispie]

And as usual we have someone saying christians can't be evolutionist..

Thats because a Saint must believe in only microevolution as the only form of evolution and must believe in creation, since that is what is taught in Genesis. To believe anything else would mean they dont believe everything in the bible, and God says you must believe everything in the bible as one of the requirements of being saved. A Christian Evolutionist is no more than a hipocrite who has no clue what he actually believes, or... just doubts the very religion he claims to believe.

 

[Sopharos]

Thats because a Saint must believe in only microevolution as the only form of evolution and must believe in creation, since that is what is taught in Genesis. To believe anything else would mean they dont believe everything in the bible, and God says you must believe everything in the bible as one of the requirements of being saved. A Christian Evolutionist is no more than a hipocrite who has no clue what he actually believes, or... just doubts the very religion he claims to believe.

Oh no, not another "Not true Scotsman" argument.

I think those "un-true" Christians will disagree.

 

[L'Anatra]

Thats because a Saint must believe in only microevolution as the only form of evolution and must believe in creation, since that is what is taught in Genesis. To believe anything else would mean they dont believe everything in the bible, and God says you must believe everything in the bible as one of the requirements of being saved. A Christian Evolutionist is no more than a hipocrite who has no clue what he actually believes, or... just doubts the very religion he claims to believe.

Mmyeah... and you worship your interpretation of the Bible rather than the Christian God.

But I suppose that wouldn't affect your being saved... you know, since following God's laws has nothing to do with it. Only believing that they exist and that they are His. Or did I misunderstand your theology?

See... everyone can play this game. It doesn't exactly help the discussion, now does it?

 

[Blessed-one]

mod note: moved over from the creation and evolution forum for further discussion.

 

[Card42]

and God says you must believe everything in the bible as one of the requirements of being saved.

please show us
where the Bible says this

and i don't know what the op
has anything to do
with "evolutionist to creationist ratio"

and keep in mind
that your opinion
is a very small minority
even among YEC's

 

[Dark_Lite]

Thats because a Saint must believe in only microevolution as the only form of evolution and must believe in creation, since that is what is taught in Genesis. To believe anything else would mean they dont believe everything in the bible, and God says you must believe everything in the bible as one of the requirements of being saved. A Christian Evolutionist is no more than a hipocrite who has no clue what he actually believes, or... just doubts the very religion he claims to believe.

...........Wow.

 

[L'Anatra]

and i don't know what the op
has anything to do
with "evolutionist to creationist ratio"

This isn't crispie's doing. A moderator moved this line of discussion here out of the "Evolutionist to Creationist ratio" thread in the other Creation/Evolution forum. If that helps.

 

[Late_Cretaceous]

You might want to take the plank out of your own eye before helping someone else who has a speck in theirs chrispie

 

[Karl - Liberal Backslider]

Thats because a Saint must believe in only microevolution as the only form of evolution and must believe in creation, since that is what is taught in Genesis. To believe anything else would mean they dont believe everything in the bible, and God says you must believe everything in the bible as one of the requirements of being saved. A Christian Evolutionist is no more than a hipocrite who has no clue what he actually believes, or... just doubts the very religion he claims to believe.

I've retired from debating creationism with you lot for exactly this sort of reason.

Now I'm just going to point out, again, that we have heresy from the YEC ranks. In this case, I see we have "salvation by believing everything in the Bible, specifically everything according to a literal interpretation of same".

This is most certainly heretical. The soteriology here is so screwed as to be laughable.

Moreover, you put words into God's mouth. God never said "you must believe everything in here, literally, to be saved." No. Not once.

By their fruits shall ye know them, and it's becoming clear that the fruit of Biblical literal inerrancy is heresy.

Mods should not have moved this here. They should have given you a bollocking for breaking Rule 1 and slagging off - nay, denying - the Christian faith of those you disagree with.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Now I'm just going to point out, again, that we have heresy from the YEC ranks. In this case, I see we have "salvation by believing everything in the Bible, specifically everything according to a literal interpretation of same".

This is most certainly heretical. The soteriology here is so screwed as to be laughable.

Moreover, you put words into God's mouth. God never said "you must believe everything in here, literally, to be saved." No. Not once.

Karl, I agree with you (wow!) We don't have to believe, understand, or even have read, every little detail in order to be saved.

Mods should not have moved this here. They should have given you a bollocking for breaking Rule 1 and slagging off - nay, denying - the Christian faith of those you disagree with.

Yep.

Now Karl, take a well-earned rest with your wife as you wait for that new baby! I forget, when is it due? Hope all goes well.

Blessings, Susana

 

[notto]

Thats because a Saint must believe in only microevolution as the only form of evolution and must believe in creation, since that is what is taught in Genesis. To believe anything else would mean they dont believe everything in the bible, and God says you must believe everything in the bible as one of the requirements of being saved. A Christian Evolutionist is no more than a hipocrite who has no clue what he actually believes, or... just doubts the very religion he claims to believe.

[size=-1]I've done everything the Bible says - even the stuff that
contradicts the other stuff![/size]

 

[Ron21647]

<snip>

ok, I've snipped out the part I disagree with, now what?

the only thing we need is found in the second line of my signature. You don't have to have even SEEN a Bible in order to be saved.

Ron

 

[L'Anatra]

[size=-1]I've done everything the Bible says - even the stuff that
contradicts the other stuff![/size]