Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
Split Rock said:How many times do you need to be told this before you stop posting disengenuous diatribes about it?
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.htmlTK2005 said:The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
Nathan Poe said:And that's the problem -- you haven't learned a thing.
TK2005 said:The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
TK2005 said:The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
JohnR7 said:With teachers like you it is no wonder I have not learned a thing.
TK2005 said:The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
See Elduran's link for a series of refutations to your claim that we've never observed speciation. We have.TK2005 said:The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
JohnR7 said:With teachers like you it is no wonder I have not learned a thing.
JohnR7 said:The theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops.
Gracchus said:anymore than pigs are equipped to learn to play a piano sonata.
- <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list .5in">
http://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htmhttp://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htmhttp://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htm
- Another Evolution Fraud Exposed <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list .5in">Evolution Fraud in Current Biology Textbooks Haeckels Ontongeny <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list .5in">Haeckel's distortions did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list .5in">Haeckel's Fake Drawings - Pictures
[*]Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better Science Educationhttp://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htm
[*]
[SIZE=+2]
[/SIZE]http://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htm
Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis:
Fake Dinosaur-bird ancestor
The most recent and perhaps the most infamous evolution frauds was committed in China and published in 1999 in the journal National Geographic 196:98-107, November 1999. Dinosaur bones were put together with the bones of a newer species of bird and they tried to pass it off as a very important new evolutionary intermediate.Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis Creationary Links
"Feathers For T-Rex?", Christopher P. Sloan, National Geographic Magazine, Vol. 196, No. 5, November, 1999, pp.99,100,105
Interesting Quote - "National Geographic has reached an all-time low for engaging in sensationalistic, unsubstantiated, tabloid journalism" Storrs L. Olson, Smithsonian Institution
- <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">
- Adventist Scientist Comments on Retraction of Evolutionary "Missing Link" Claim <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">And now: Feathered Dinosaur Link <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Another Evolution Fraud By Tim Friend, USA TODAY <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Another Fossil Flub <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Another Hoax by Owen D. Olbricht <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Another Missing Link Takes Flight <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Another "OOOPS" For Science <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Archaeoraptor Flight Aborted by John Morris <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Archaeopteryx, Archaeoraptor, and the "Dinosaurs-To-Birds" Theory ... <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Archaeoraptor: Feathered Dinosaur from National Geographic Doesnt Fly ... IMPACT No. 321 by Steven A. Austin, Ph.D <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Archaeoraptor Hoax Update National Geographic Recants! <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Archaeoraptor: National Geographic's Biggest Embarassment by Craig McClarren <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Archaeoraptor: Phony feathered fossil by Jonathan Sarfati <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Archaeoraptor: Some interesting points about this particular hoax <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Crying Fowl: Tale of 'Missing Link' Embarrasses Scientists <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">'Dragon' fossils seized <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">EVOLUTION COVER-UP <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Evolution Hoax The Archaeoraptor Fraud <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Evolution: The Fraud That Shapes The Worldview of Our Kids By Bob Harsh and Chuck Colson. Origins Insights March 2000 Newsletter by the Creation Science Fellowship <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">"Feathered Dinosaur" Claim Apparently a Fake <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">National Geographic backs down sort of! By Carl Wieland <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">National Geographic Gets a Black Eye <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">National Geographic Eats Crow <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">National Geographic retracts boast of dinosaur-to-bird 'missing link' <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Smithsonian criticizes National Geographics Dino-to-Bird Claims revealing the lack of consensus on the matter among scientists, despite National Geographics sensationalistic propagandizing. <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">Smithsonian critiques National Geographic in open letter archaeoraptor <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">The Missing Link That Wasnt ... National Geographics Bird Dinosaur Flew Again the Facts by Nancy Pearcey,. Access Research Network <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">The Archaeoraptor Fraud by Charles Colson <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">The Archaeoraptor Fraud: National Geographic <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">The Latest Fraud! <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">The Missing Link that Wasn't: National Geographic's 'Bird Dinosaur' Flew Against the Facts <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list .5in">The Piltdown Chickenhttp://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htmhttp://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htm
[*]Well, Folks It Happened Again!News Articles Published on The Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis Discovery
- <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">
[SIZE=+2][/SIZE]http://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htm
- Second Piece of Fossil Forgery Identified Scientific American 11/21/02 <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Comparing Modern Birds with The Missing Link Fossils <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">FEATHERED CREATURES FROM CHINA BOOST DINOSAUR-BIRD CONNECTION <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Flying dinosaur was mean, graceless: Fiercesome bird may have been first flying feathered animal to evolve <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Fossils from China Link Birds With Dinosaurs <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">MISSING LINK BETWEEN DINOSAURS AND BIRDS FOUND IN CHINA: Dino Land Has the Full Story of Dinosaur-Bird Evolution and the Latest Exciting Development! <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">'Missing Link' Dino Actually Two Animals ABCNEWS.com <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">New Birdlike Dinosaurs from China Are True Missing Links <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">NEW BIRDLIKE DINOSAURS ON VIEW: COULD T. REX HAVE HAD FEATHERS / T. Rex mit Federn <LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo11; tab-stops: list .5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Researchers find fossils of primitive flying dinosaur
[*]Think of it as a 120 million-year-old turkey: Archaeoraptor liaoningensis may be missing link between ground-based dinosaurs and birds
Miscellaneous Fakes and Frauds
Brontosaurus: One of the best known dinosaurs in books and museums for the past hundred years, brontosaurus never really existed. The dinosaurs skeleton was found with the head missing. To complete it, a skull found three or four miles away was added. No one knew this for years. The body actually belonged to a species of Diplodocus and the head was from an Apatosaurus. (source: Paul S. Taylor, The Great Dinosaur Mystery and the Bible, [Chariot Victor Publishing, 1989], pp.12-13)General Evolution Fraud Links
- <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list .5in">
- 10 Notorious Darwinist Fabricationshttp://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htmhttp://www.creationism.org/caesar/haeckel.htm <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Anatomy of a Hoax by Sean Meek <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Dinosaur webcam pictures -- fake, hoax photos and pics <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Evolution Fraud in School Scienfic Textbooks <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Evolution fraud in current biology textbooks Worldnet Magazine 2001 Exposed as fakes decades ago, major publishers still include them <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Evolution Forgeries from the Muslim online book Evolution Deceit <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Gaps in the Textbooks' Coverage of the Fossil Record by Texans for Better Science Education <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Forensic geochemistry solves fossil riddles ..Geological Society News - New forensic tools developed to spot fossil fakes. <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Scientists behaving badly - Journal editors reveal researchers' wicked ways Nature 3/4/2004 <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Survival of The Fakest Part I or Survival of The Fakest Part II by Jonathan Wells (PDF download) <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Textbook Fraud: Inherit The Wind is intellectual pornography!: Full of Lies, deception and very anti-Christian. <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Textbook Fraud: The Horse Series; Hyracotherium "dawn horse" eohippus, mesohippus, ... <LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l10 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list .5in">Text book Fraud! Video -& Documentation by Don Patton
[*]THE CASE OF ARCHAEOPTERYX The evidence strongly indicates it is a fake
- Archaeopteryx (unlike Archaeoraptor) is NOT a hoax it is a true bird, not a missing link by Jonathan Sarfati
[*]The Rise of the Evolution Fraud Review of book by Malcolm Bowden
JohnR7 said:Or anymore then a pigs tooth is the "missing link". If all evols have to learn is nonsense like that, then what is there to learn? Here are a few links that talk about more fraud that is peddled in the name of evolution.
Loudmouth said:[/font]
Actually, "Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" is more specific than that. It states that embryonic development will go in the same order ans evolutionary development.
JohnR7 said:The point is that what evos teach changes from day to day, week to week, month to month and year to year. They have even gone beyond neodarwinism in a vain attept to keep their theory believeable in light of the most recent discoverys. They keep grinding out theory and then science itself falsifys the theory so they just grind out a new theory that in time will be falsified.
Pete Harcoff said:And most of those aren't even frauds (peppered moths, horse series, Nebraska man...)
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?