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The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
 
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TK2005 said:
The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
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http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

Observations of species becoming new species.
 
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TK2005 said:
The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
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Pika, Pika!

 
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TK2005 said:
The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
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You've got it wrong. A good amount of evolutionary theory is based on current observation including the formation of new species (in both lab and nature settings).
 
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TK2005 said:
The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
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if a species ever turned into something completely different, it would disprove evolution, not prove it. evolution says that things only change by gradual modification of existing structures.
 
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TK2005 said:
The use of forensic science (good science) to help the evolutionary idea is not helpful to the cause. It simply serves to prove my point. We base our observation in forensic science on events and results that are directly observable by man today. We have not even once witnessed one species changing into a completely new species. That's bad science and speculative.
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See Elduran's link for a series of refutations to your claim that we've never observed speciation. We have.
 
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JohnR7 said:
With teachers like you it is no wonder I have not learned a thing.
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You are not equipped to learn, JohnR7, anymore than pigs are equipped to learn to play a piano sonata. We can't blame the teacher, the piano, or the pig.

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JohnR7 said:
The theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops.
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Actually, "Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" is more specific than that. It states that embryonic development will go in the same order ans evolutionary development. It was later discovered that the orders do not match up, and some stages are missing altogether.

While ontogeny (embryonic development) does not recapitulate phylogeny (evolutionary development), it does reflect phylogeny. For instance, dolphins actually develop leg buds, reflecting their terrestrial heritage. Humans develop brachial arches which reflects their common ancestory with all other vertebrates.

While the pics were misrepresentative, it is important to note that it was evolutionists that uncovered the fraud. This is in stark contrast to the current situation where creationists such as those in the RATE group continue to propogate bad science and fraud which is repeated by creationists over and over.
 
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Gracchus said:
anymore than pigs are equipped to learn to play a piano sonata.
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Or anymore then a pigs tooth is the "missing link". If all evols have to learn is nonsense like that, then what is there to learn? Here are a few links that talk about more fraud that is peddled in the name of evolution.
 
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JohnR7 said:
Or anymore then a pigs tooth is the "missing link". If all evols have to learn is nonsense like that, then what is there to learn? Here are a few links that talk about more fraud that is peddled in the name of evolution.
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So, another compulsively expressed lie and a bad cut and paste job.
 
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Here's an interesting link for the admittedly unlearned:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/odyssey/clips/

And a pic to boot!
fish-embryo.jpeg

chick-embryo.jpeg

pig-embryo.jpeg

human-embryo.jpeg
 
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First of all, you've done a nice copy 'n paste, but I doubt you've read any of those links, John.

Second, the actual frauds in those links are the usual creationist suspects: Piltdown, Archaeorator, etc. And it should be noted that Archaeoraptor was a fraud perpetuated by a Chinese farmer in an attempt to increase the value of the fossil he found. It was NOT a fraud in an attempt to prove evolution.

The rest of those links seem to be a hodge-podge of the usual creationist suspects. And most of those aren't even frauds (peppered moths, horse series, Nebraska man...).

This proves how desperate creationists are that they keep re-cycling the same attemps at claims of forgery. Not to mention it also proves how reactionary creationists are. They have nothing original to bring to the table, so they keep trying to discredit everything else.
 
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Actually, "Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" is more specific than that. It states that embryonic development will go in the same order ans evolutionary development.
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The point is that what evos teach changes from day to day, week to week, month to month and year to year. They have even gone beyond neodarwinism in a vain attept to keep their theory believeable in light of the most recent discoverys. They keep grinding out theory and then science itself falsifys the theory so they just grind out a new theory that in time will be falsified.
 
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JohnR7 said:
The point is that what evos teach changes from day to day, week to week, month to month and year to year. They have even gone beyond neodarwinism in a vain attept to keep their theory believeable in light of the most recent discoverys. They keep grinding out theory and then science itself falsifys the theory so they just grind out a new theory that in time will be falsified.
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More unsupported claims. *yawn*
 
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Pete Harcoff said:
And most of those aren't even frauds (peppered moths, horse series, Nebraska man...)
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Creationists know that evos are deceived. They know that evos buy into their own deception and are not able to admit their fraud. There is a lot of fraud. I quit trying to figure out the reason why there is so much fraud. But even if we do not know why evos do what they do, that still does not change the fraud and the deception.

Romans 1:22-23
Professing to be wise, they became fools, [23] and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
 
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